1. not going to lose in Iraq. "Winning" is a stupid word...that is more about politics and less about reality. We won the battle against the Iraq army. We are in nowhere's land in an ongoing sectarian war within Iraq with Shiites, Sunnis, and Jihadists all killing one another and killing Americans. Let alone Shiite sects fighting one another. Not going to lose that sectarian war? Its not worth it to keep fighting tribes that have been fighting one another for 1,000 years. 2. Still has public support! http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16755951/ Recent polls and this one point out that 2/3 of Americans don't believe in Bush and the war. Which public are you speaking about? Or do you mean pubic support? 3. Media makes the war look bad. Hah. Bush made the war look good when it hasn't. That is why 2/3 of public doesn't support it! 4. Democrats are appeasers? Democrats obviously put more value on the worthiness of American lives and the lives of American soldiers. Similarly republicans who are fed up with Bush also put more value in American soldier's lives than Bush. In fact it appears that 2/3 of Americans feel that way! 5. Less troops have died in Iraq. True. What is it with you? Do you want to see more American troops die in Iraq? Do you have some sort of sick wish that as many Americans die in Iraq as in Vietnam? That is gruesome.