I have been awake for more then 26 hours now. Ok, big deal you wonder.. Well I took a day off and spend all this time researching and gaining knowledge about offshore hosting and bulletproof hosting. It was very time consuming and gave me some headaches along the road. So I researched and researched and came to the conclusion that its very difficult to find a reliable (bulletproof) offshore hosting company. I have read many topics on various websites, blogs, forums varying from 2004 to 2010. So I'm in need of a bulletproof offshore hosting. I'm starting up a small website that sells mostly imported Chinese goods that are considered counterfeits in my Country. And no I'm not selling fake iPhones, iPods etc. I'm not that lame. I'm selling alot of different computer parts (USB cables, Hubs, etc.) Videogame Accesoires etc. You name it. I'm a resident from The Netherlands (we use .nl domain) and please correct me if I'm wrong there is no anonymous .nl domain option available. Whoisguard or whatever you want to name it Therefore my options are a .com or .net domain. What I found out is that Ukraine, China and Russian are reliable. Ofcourse not all of them, take out the rotten apples first! I think I will go the China route to full anonymity. Why? - I'm scared of the Russian Botnet - I don't have connections and/or relatives in Russia - I heard Chinese is a bulletproof Haven. (please correct me if i'm wrong) - I have experience dealing with Chinese dropshippers and wholesale. I don't do mass mailing (spam) so that's not the reason it needs to be bulletproof. I don't host warez or link to warez. I only sell goods that are considered counterfeits in my own country (The Netherlands) In China its not illegal because they dont acknowledge international laws. (They have their own laws considering counterfeits) Because my business is relatively small I was also thinking do I need shared offshore hosting? Or Do I want dedicated offshore hosting? So basically I'm looking for someone who can put me into the right direction. For now I'm going to sleep and when I wake up I hope to see some posts. I'm not expecting to get spoonfed I'm just tired
you need to use a generic domain .com .net .org .biz or .info to have a ID shield, usually regional domains like .nl cant be anonymous. China will have slow connection with high prices, Russia is fine , they have good connections direct to Netherlands Exchange points. What products do you want to sell ? because you said: I'm selling alot of different computer parts (USB cables, Hubs, etc.) Videogame Accesoires etc. You name it. then I only sell goods that are considered counterfeits in my own country You mean OEM parts or what kind of products ? Also The Netherlands is a good location to have websites in the "grey market". Rgds.
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I suppose only your current web hosting company decides what can be hosted on the server and what not. That is important to know about and remember.
Well I should say that there are only small part of offshore hosting. Mostly all the time I see ads everywhere that web hosting company provides offshore hosting...Ok let's face some facts. If any fraud or phishing or any activity monitoring company will come to that company and will ask to shutdown the site they can refuse to do it, but after few days or whatever the time the actual DC will suspend the connection to that website source. That means that you can provide offshore, but I do not think that there are any DCs in the world that provides offshore colocation Another thing about China we work with Chinese market and I should say that the main and most important fact what they do is search for web hosting that offers SSH access, so that they can use to hack the Chinese great wall (there are a lot of BBC and other journalist reports about that in yoututbe). So I do not see anything specific unless you are blocked by CGW and have no Chinese payment methods. Also in regards to your questions I should put this way. Ask web hosting company do they notice you before suspend and do daily backups. That is probably teh option to have if you not selling or gathering any illegal material.
I would personally be wary of mainland china as a haven. Hong-Kong is a more appropriate candidate(in my opinion). But it depends on so many factors. it also depends on what you host and how you host it(server up-link, software etc).
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Don't try to couch it in language that makes it seems better than it is. You want to sell counterfeit goods. It's not so much "considered illegal" it IS illegal - not only in the Netherland but throughout the rest of the civilised world which should give you a good indication of what direction your moral compass is pointing to. I see, so selling counterfeit computer parts and ripping people off who think they are buying a genuine product is OK then? Don't try to kid us that they are "OEM" because OEM parts aren't considered counterfeit unless they are breaching some sort of copyright - then they ARE counterfeit (bit of a circular arguement there!). Fake iPhones, fake computer parts, both are pretty lame. Stealing other peoples work product, counterfeiting goods, and passing them off to other people is a lower form of deception than Spamming or hosting warez could ever be. Don't even try to put yourself on the same low scummy level of these types of companies. Knowlingly selling counterfeit goods to people is several rungs lower down that ladder. Do you mean to the nearest police station? You're asking people for public advice on how to break the law and expect people to be dumb enough to aid and abet you in selling counterfeit goods. Good luck with that! Oh, wait a minute, you have received replies and advice. Shame on all of you. Offshore hosting isn't going to protect you if you're found out. If it's illegal in your country and you operate the business from there that should be the end of it, but you seem determined. Do you think the people whose goods you are counterfeiting and passing-off are going to stop just because you have an offshore account, or that the police are going to let it pass because your site is hosted in another countryy. You need a serious reality check. Selling stuff "under the counter" may be harder for the police to detect, but having a site online 24/7 makes their life much easier. Do you think some sort of anonymous or privacy protected domain is going to save you when law enforcement come looking? They also don't acknowledge a lot of other things too like basic human rights. Doesn't make it any more correct or "legal" from where you live and operate. Ha Ha! Is that some sort of justification that you are following the "laws" in the country producing the goods. Do you feel that gives you enough justification to sell counterfeit goods that are illegal in your country (and most of the world) and to take peoples hard-earned cash selling them something that isn't what they expect. There's some twisted logic there all right. Face it, when you work on the fringes you aren't going to get any help if (should I say WHEN) things go wrong. If you attempt to operate outwith the jurisdiction of the law what do you think YOUR chances are of doing anything about the hosting company who provides this service shutting you down, deleting your files, or ripping you off in some other way? As for asking them if they do "Backup" or provide some sort of "notification" of suspending your site! What! Was that serious advice? When you lack morals and want to act illegally, and then look for companies to support you in your efforts, don't expect stellar support or any honesty in return. Lie down with dogs, catch fleas. When you find an offshore hosting company who will support you, you will be dealing with people who are more ruthless than you are, and you will get the service and return you deserve. If you want bullet-proof hosting ask for it, but don't try to explain or justify your illegal activitiies.
Funny guy...why Nike and most of US companies are in China? what we can talk about? in China the same guys that make a original rolex make the fake too.
Actually I do not see anything wrong about Chinese market...that is a bit out of topic, but I don't think you will be able to find your so naming bulletproof web hosting
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