i was quite shure where to put this...... Heres like my first professional website made, Heres some pictures: Index: Project: Services: Header (flash): http://shannighan.5gbfree.com/layouts/business_layout(1)/Final/preview/preview.html (the space to the left of the text is for a logo) dont mind the ads, im using a free hosting service because my domain ranout and i didnt want to pay $30 to renew when im just going to get a couple new ones. I think its very professional, what do you guys think? also ther header is avalible in a 4 button and 5 button flavor and the project page uses php includes for easy updating. It also is expandable (vertically) to fit your browser. dont mind the text in the footer, i took these images before doing the include so it looks different now.