Well Not with RTM but with all version from Beta 1-RC2..it was very good. If you game however, I'd wait for more stable video card drivers.. say a month or two tops (for NVidia anyways).
Well I have used it after it came out on my friends computer, I liked it a lot, a whole lot it was great and easier and faster than Xp if you ask me
It looks great, and there are a few really nice new functions... But there are still so many bugs that it really isn't worth it tp upgrade yet. I bought Vista Business edition a couple weeks a go and installed it on one of my gaming comps, it crashed about three times just doing some pretty basic stuff (non gaming related). And as far as gaming goes, don't even think about installing Vista Battlefield 2 crashed on me almost every game, as did Starcraft.
umm, strange that you have had problems with it. i installed it on a computer which didnt meet the minmum recommended specs for windows vista just to see how it went, and i must say it works so so fast, no errors, not crashed once. i love it. Andy
I won't upgrade to Vista for a while, because it's not a big enough change. There weren't any listed features that I couldn't either A) Get in XP or B) Get in Ubuntu Linux for free. The pretty 3d effects are fluff that slow down users minds. I am very technically oriented, and I know all of the XP hotkeys. If I did upgrade I would turn off all 3d stuff, and then what's the point. By the way, you can get IE7 and Media Player 11 as well as the fancy clock extension for XP without spending money... That said if you are artistic, have lots of money or a sweet computer already, and just use a PC for the net and music, then go for it! That's a shame, BF2 is so amazing!
Bought the Business version, installed it on a 3 month old Dual Core Duo machine, hated it. Two or three programs had issues. Mostly though, everything I did required me to give it permission to do something. I even got a message that warned me that my mouse needed permission to access a program. My mouse! Even though I turned all the security messages off, I still got them. So, I bought a new hard drive, installed XP Pro and all my original stuff then pulled the old drive and put in the one with XP. If I decide to try it again, all I have to do is swap drives. But I wont try it again until there's a Service Pack that resolves this security insanity. /*tom*/
Did you right click on the BF2 icon and select both "Run as Administrator" as well as "Run in XP mode"???? that worked for me (barely) on my very old and antiquated system for BF2.
No offense bud, but honestly, the only people that I've ever heard say that are those that never had Vista. Vista users know though, it will change your computing experience for the better.
I highly doubt it, because I am highly technically oriented in computing. I have no problems with working in command line interfaces, and am transitioning as much of my work to Linux as possible. Gnome holds much more than Vista in terms of long term results, and I can at least play with Linux as much as I want. Microsoft released Vista as a long overdue Expansion pack for XP. If I have seen it once on a review, I have seen it a million times by highly respected sources. Plus, I have been using XP for as long as it was available, and I know it like the back of my hand. No sense upgrading to this nonsense when learning it does me no good in helping others. That's not to say that you shouldn't enjoy it. I was merely expressing my reasons of distaste. $259 just isn't worth it when I know that Suse looks and functions better for almost nothing in comparison. I would love to hear your reasons for buying it though, as there is always something to be said for hearing both sides of an argument.
I decided to take the plunge and install Vista Ultimate on my AMD64 3000+ with 512MB RAM, slow IDE hard drive, 256MB GeForce 5200 graphics card. Installed fine, no problems and it recognised everything. Its not crashed, come up with errors or anything. Runs slow on my 512 RAM which is not surprising but i'm upgrading that next couple of days. Yes, a lot is eye candy which you soon get used to and becomes the norm but then you realise how good the little things are like the explorer window with 'breadcrumb', the 'live search' in start menu, the way the start menu has changed, it also remembers how you work so gets faster etc. Not installed dreamweaver back on yet but photoshop CS works fine as does Smart FTP and Programmers Notepad .
very well: 1) security 2) DX10 3) Office updates 4) Longhorn etc etc etc. XP is great, I am actually back on it now (after having uninstalled the beta after RTM was released as you can read here: http://forums.microsoft.com/TechNet/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=1131880&SiteID=17 ) regardless, your valuation sounds more like an endorsement for your preferance that an evaluation of Vista. I'd be interested to know, per chance, how did you come to experience Vista, if at all? Or is this, as I suspect, simply your opinion of Vista based on the ramblings of others? If it is simply you mimicking others as I believe it is, I'd prefer to hear your original thoughts... opinions..et al, from first hand experience.
Say, to all Vista users, what is the Vista equivalent to Win XP SP2 ? So many versions of Vista flying around, I am getting a bit confused.
Even XP had its different versions. Which version are you talking about? XP home, XP Professional, XP Media Center, XP x64? Vista has versions, use this simple table to see what's best for you. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/windowsvista/editions/choose.mspx
I myself don't have it, as I have said. However, I have had IE7, and MP11 since Beta, and am not impressed. I have the Beta laying around, but I didn't want to ruin my XP install. So yes, you could say I was parroting it back per say. I don't claim first hand experience except that all that I said came straight from Microsoft's own claims. Notice, I didn't say I would never upgrade. I will upgrade when it is stable, and can do everything I need it to do without costing an arm and a leg. Truly said though: I have no experience with it, and was merely voicing my opinion that is a mix of a) Microsoft's own Claims, b) that of my friends, and c) that of tech professionals. So, rather than argue with you like many noobs might, I will admit up front where I am coming from. Now, I would like you to explain yourself a little: Security You're kidding right? It is so secure that it was hacked in Beta, and required a Service Pack on release because of it. Plus, you don't get drive protection unless you buy Ultra. What does DirectX 10 mean to me? I barely game anymore, and when I do, version 9 still looks and feels great! Office updates...??? Why does office need updates? I have a formal education in the old version of MS Office, and I have use the full Beta version of Office Vista. It is plain stupid IMO: why? The ribbon forces me to conform to their assumption that I am an idiot who doesn't know any hotkeys or how to use menus. I have been using the menu system all my life, and I am an expert on it.
Wait, so you're telling me you are basing your evaluation of Vista not on Vista, but on IE7? Kinda like saying a car sucks because you don't like the tires... prety silly bro. You do understand the purpose of BETA don't you? Testing for flaws, errors and exploits. BETA means that it isn't a production quality piece "yet". The Service Pack released for it under RTM was only done so because it required specific updates not handed out to us on the still beta CD's... but only under those with RTM or later. Well, imho, it would be akin to a person 15 years ago saying "wow, who would ever use up a whole 1 gig of RAM !" Times change buddy Everything updates. Nothing stays stagnant in this world. It is either grow, change and evolve in business, or become IBM, Hudson, Michael Moore..etc. As per the ribbon, it is all changeable No one is assuming anything about "you" per se`, but more so, adressing the lowest common denominator. For instance, I am sure that you appreciate that TV's are made to auto tune channels... adressing the lowest common denominator in us all... but surely, that may make (in your argument at least) electronics experts feel like their are being treated pedantically because it isn't something they can tune themselves eh?
It seems like someone is feeling argumentative today. I fully admit that I have not tried it before, and that my opinion are based on the outcome, not the cause so to speak. I was willing to admit that, and merely express my reasons. Why are you taking this so personally. I respect you trying to defend Windows, but obviously you aren't seeing things the way I am. From where I stand, Bill Gates is releasing what he knows is junk compared to what it should be, and then hyping it up so that people like you parrot this stuff back and make his junk sound good. So what if there are some redeeming factors? It's definitely not worth the full price to me. Key word here is that this is personal. I can't change your opinion, and you can't change mine. All we can look at are facts. Fine, so it is silly. I said it before, and I'll say it again. I haven't used it. However, IE7 and WMP11 were two of the largest selling points of Vista for a long time during it's development, and both were major depressing. You yourself probably agree as the member of a Web Developer forum that it is not up to par. You only read half of my post. I wasn't making this point at all, but rather that they refused to solve the problem during Beta. Now, it is released to us under the hype that it is Perfect Protection, while they know full well that Hackers already had exploited. Poor business plan if you ask me. 'http://www.betanews.com/article/Allchin_Suggests_Vista_Wont_Need_Antivirus/1163104965 'http://news.com.com/2100-7355_3-6156733.html?part=rss&tag=2547-1_3-0-5&subj=news As it were, I have 1.5 Gb of RAM, and I frequently make use of all of it. I was simply saying that DirectX should not be the reason to buy it, as it doesn't offer that big of a change. Agreed to some extent. I still have Office 2003. Why you might ask? Office is a tool, not a toy. Simple as that. I see no benefit in updating every year just to have the coolest looking toy. Can I type essays, check spelling, etc.? Then it's good. I didn't come and post here with the intent of arguing, but it seem that you are going to argue no matter what I say. I'll buy it when I feel like, but I also think that you can't hide the obvious flaws. I just hope that anyone who reads this thread will see that though there are redeeming factors about Vista, you should only buy it if that sort of thing suits you. In my case it doesn't, but it seems I am the only one who can accept that.
Please remember Chaos, that inflection (of tone) is not something that is easily expressed. I will agree and am fully aware that my skills in expressing myself in this medium are lacking as I've experienced in the past, however I've no interest and attain no benefit from sounding rude intentionally. Your opinion on things is great and do not bother me a bit.. I was just expressing concern about why you have those beliefs and that stance of yours on this subject matter. However, believe me, I gain nor lose a thing from it other than a dialogue (which I've appreciated) with you on a subject I enjoy.