I read this about them here... As an interesting aside, when asked how they can justify the proselytizing of their children in this way, the evangelicals counter by claiming that the Muslims are doing it as well. The difference as they see it is that they have the true word of God, and it is better to get to their children before someone else does -- namely the enemy. As Camp organizer Becky Fischer noted: "It's no wonder, with that kind of intense training and discipling, that those young people are ready to kill themselves for the cause of Islam. I wanna see young people who are as committed to the cause of Jesus Christ as the young people are to the cause of Islam. I wanna see them as radically laying down their lives for the Gospel as they are over in Pakistan and Israel and Palestine and all those different places, you know, because we have... excuse me, but we have the truth!" It seems when people get extreme in any religion it turns into something twisted and sick.
Lets see now if I can play the game like you. I get to deflect your topic like you deflected mine don't I? Hey everyone check out Jesus camp then check out what goes on at Islamic kindergarten graduation in Gaza! http://www.memritv.org/search.asp?ACT=S9&P1=1468 If you want, I can come up with a lot more videos of the brainwashing and abuse of children in Islam from all over the world.
I'm sure you can do that but I don't see how this justifyes the actions of the people in the video I presented. Just because the muslims do it too doesn't make it right. It's wrong to indoctrinate kids with extremist religious shit no matter what religion we are talking about
This http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=3385801&postcount=2 is the point he's making. You deflected another thread about muslims into an anti-christian argument. He's doing the same at you. It's kinda comical to think that you are mad here, but did the exact same thing in another thread
The thing that keeps the vast majority Christians from murdering and preaching murder no matter how extreme their faith is the simple quote "love your enemies." Those Christians who fail to love their enemies are just in danger of hell as those they hate. I can't tell a Muslim terrorist they're going to hell. No where in Islam does it say that. I can tell a murdering Christian they're going to hell and they know it's true if they don't fully accept the consequence for what they've done and repent. Christians will not defend murderers. There have been no shortage of Muslims on this forum that do exactly that. Teaching people to lay down their life for the Gospel (as Jesus did) is a lot different than teaching them to lay down other people's lives for the Gospel. She's not telling them to kill. She's telling them it's better to die at the hands of your enemy than reject God. The idea that she uses Islam is sickening though. I'm thinking she's just ignorant about what's going on over there. She thinks the Jews are killing the Muslims.
This video has been posted numerous times in threads here by anti-Christians. Not a peep of violence in it. In fact, if they were muslim, it would be an extremely *moderate* day at the mosque. Meanwhile, we have 12 year old boys beheading adults and four year olds being taught that Jews are "apes and pigs" and that killing Jews is their duty in the muslim world, and the *same* people that pretend to be outraged over non-violence either never have a word to say, or defend it. Right, iul? If anything, it proves a point I've often asserted. Extremists in islam will slit your throat for being an infidel. Extremist Christians will hold up signs saying "Jesus is great!"
Jesus camp is totally wacked, they are shutting it down! I thought this was interesting too... "Perhaps the most disturbing moment was when one of the camp counselors brought out a life size cardboard popup of George W. Bush. and stood it in the pulpit, a waving American flag graphic projected behind him, saying "Here's President Bush, come to visit us...!" and then calling the children to come forward and touch his likeness, "pray over him! Make warfare over him" (note: to those not familiar with certain fundamentalist colloquialisms, "warfare" is in reference to the Apostle Paul's admonition "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places," and "For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds" speaking of spiritual warfare -- prayer and intercession). Little children clamor and cluster at the feet of this cutout, straining to touch it like the woman with the issue of blood in the Gospels reaching to touch the hem of Jesus' garment. Though the weapons of their warfare are not carnal, there is no lack of the use of utterly carnal, even military symbolisms. In one scene several children had devised a 'dance' to go along with some Christian Heavy Metal music, clad in fatigues and faces painted in camo, brandishing fighting sticks which they were thrusting and flailing about, shouting "War! Warfare!" The girls in the group had war-paint faces and wore black." Source Holy crap WTH!
how you know? you've been in the mosque before? so the other happen in US where FREEDOM should be above other and the other happen in third world country where actually at war. War will mesh up your adult brain, imagine what could happen to kids. remember saudi arabia also a muslim country, that sh*t never happen there, why? Yeah right, don't forget about bratunac
both muslims and christians are stupid...they hate each others, forget about poor people, only generate hate and discriminations(which in results only attacking each other). only money which can brainwash people more than these silly religions. Most fanatics lose their humanity, only think about their religion but forget to practice what their religion taught them sometimes I heard stupid naive people talks about their religion. Saudi Arabia, UAE, and most Arab countries didn't act when they knew America is trying to push Islam harder than ever, why is that? Money and power are the answers. They are afraid because even those countries are rich(arabs) but they are weak in military. UAE even have started to build the new Bhurj-Dubai which is very expensive and maybe will become the new WTC, why? The answer is simple, Money and power, again..they want to cooperate with Europe and US further even if they knew US is trying to push Islam. And talking about US, why do you think they are trying to attack Iraq, Afghanistan, and now Iran? Again, Money and power... Are you trying to make your religion your first priority in your life? You maybe will say yes in this thread but when you forced to choose in real life, I am certain you won't. I wonder why people keep talking about religion these days, what so important about it? Religion is absolutely nothing when you choose not to help people but to generate hate from it. I think you should have read my other post in other topic. For example, if you are earning $100,000 monthly what will you do with it? Most people(whoever he/she is, muslims, christians, or hedonist, or whatever) will waste it for expensive things. Why they don't choose to help others? They always have options. But again, money and power blinded them. Correct me if I'm wrong but does Christianity and Islam ask you to help others? If yes then why you both are keep talking like a dog in this thread? Why you don't go outside from your home, search for any poor and disabled people and help them when you have money? Why? In this world there are 2 kinds of stupid people: (actually there are many, but since this is a topic of religion, i will give you 2 example) 1. People who claimed their religion is the only way. But in reality, they are not different with (let's say) atheist, communist, and hedonist. When they are poor, they will run to their God(I mean god) But when they are rich, what will they do? They will help others? For what? You will only give 10% or 2.5% of your money to poor people because your religion ask you to do that? And what will you do with the 97.5% or 90% of your money? Buy new cars and house so people can praise you with their masks? If you want to help others, do it because you know they need your help. I think real God know what inside our heart, if you do something because you want something(in this case, heaven.), I think there will be no reward from God. If God rewarded you with what so-called "heaven" even if He knew you asked him for that heaven when you are helping people, it means God is stupid. 2. Fanatics. This kind of people are not blinded with images and money but they are blinded with their silly religions. I think this is what generate hate among people. If one Muslims killed one Christians, these stupid fanatics from Christians side will keep barking like a dog. Same to Muslims. Why don't you just trying to forgive each others? So what have your religion taught you? Forgive everyone who said "sorry" to you?(I know these teachings are for Christians because I have read too many debates about Christians and Muslims in the past which I think are useless..) But why you never practice it? My questions sounds naive but I think religions are naive. For me many christians and muslims are hypocrite(not all of them of course). They have options in life but they choose to talking about what is right and what is wrong, and they eventually forget about what happened with poor people. They keep talking like they do care about those poor people. For example, A Christian raped a little girl who is a muslim. Most muslims will mock christianity because this tragedy but did they help this little girl with their money or their moral support? Experiences can answer, and the answer is "No." Religions taught us to see and "practice" positive things. But what I saw, most people only see negative things but never practice anything when the topic is about "money". If you are a muslim with many bad experiences, will another (rich) muslims help you? No. They will tell you "I'm very sorry to hear that" and another hypocrite words but will they help you? Nope. Just some garbage words. Same to christians. I know and I will always know if we are very generous, people will trying to be very friendly to us because they think we will help them again and again. I am not trying to discuss about "generosity" in here but "Why all of you choose to stay here, mocking each others? Why you don't choose to take action helping others?" isn't your religion taught you about that? This is why I think religions is naive. They ask people to do something important, to love and help each others. But in reality, you can count how many people who really practicing their religions not talking.
Just look in DP alone, how many threads outside talking about christianity and muslims? Why you are wasting your time writing those threads? Why don't you just turn off your computer, go outside your home, find disabled people, and help them? It is hard? Your religion ask you to do that kind of thing, right? Then why you not do it when you have time?