Sup, My boss is expressing concerns on the coop. He is worried that one of our competitors might report us to big G and we might get banned. I am trying to calm his nerves and concerns so that he doesn't worry about this. Does anyone believe that if reported to G that we would be banned from their index for the coop?
No one has been banned frmo Google for using the Co-op yet so he'd be the first. See here for the risks and how to avoid them.
That isnt exactly true, digitalpoint ebay page was banned, although the rest of the site was untouched. But the ebay page showed no cache and nowhere to be found in SERPS.
actually, it was probably a duplicate content filter thing. There are a LOT of people using Shawns same text on their own ebay pages. I don't know anything about the situation though, just speculating.
I very highly doubt it. Duplicate content doesnt banne, at least thats what i know. i also think that it might have been some kind of example for the rest.
Well someone posted URL to another co-op users page which was identical even to the mention of Shawn's sister. It was a copy and paste job. I do not know how many of those there were but that one I saw. Shannon
I know for along time, Shawn's eBay page was showing 1 out of every 10 ads on my websites.. he obviously have lot of weight to use. Is there such thing is too much weight (too many Backlinks) for Google?
Maybe he included it after the banne, not to look bad. I might be wrong of course, but it seems a bit weird just to waste the income.
Yer wrong. The page was never banned. Shawn put in a metatag for the page not to be spidered. Several people put up exact carbon copies of his page (as if!) after a discussion about where he was in the serps. You don't get banned for being in the coop. Period. I monitor several sites just for giggles and the only ones that lose pages are the crap sites (blatant keyword directories, sites that are there strictly for adsense purposes, people who post one article and then have 90000 links pages with 90000 links on those pages). The quality ones don't seem to lose anything - normal fluctuation. The ones that do get dropped; don't show on our sites anymore because they don't have anything to show.
Not entirely true..... If a site gets dropped out of google's index, that particular site doesn't have any weight and therefore their ad will not show if the owner only has one website, true. But because it is possible to use the weight from any given site to point ads to entirely different ones, it becomes hard to know if that particular ad belongs to a dropped site or not. That's were the reviewers come in hand. It is their task to manually inspect the ad, but to only inspect the ad is not sufficient. They have to do an entire scan of the website in google. It is possible that a site used to have 20.000 indexed pages and because somehow almighty google thinks something fishy is going on, the indexed pages have dropped to 10. If the ad, which is up for approval, is one of the happy 10 pages still in the index, my guess(please correct me if i'm wrong) is that the ad gets approved, although google has penalized the website by de-indexing 19.990 pages. So in this case we would link to a penalized website. On another note, it might be a good idea to only approve ads that are in compliance with the overall theme of the site. I have come across a website which is entirly about skateboards(or wakeboards, can't remember) with an ad about mesotheiloma. Not to discredit mesotheiloma, but where is the relevance in accordance to skate/wakeboards? IMO the reviewer should not approve ads which are of a totally different theme than the overall theme of the entire website. Also would be better and a lot safer, with regards to linking to bad neighborhoods, that the weight from one site can only be used for ads of that particular site. On a site not, there was an ad approved which was not indexed by any engine, reason being that the domain was registered 2 days ago. With approving these kind of ads there is no way of knowing if it is/will belong to a bad neighborhood. It is very much possible that this particular website, with no repution at all, will go black-hat. Again, therefore my recommodation to limit ads to the website displaying them and give the reviewers clear instructions to further investigate every ad.
Yes; but how many times is the ad going to show if they have 10 pages? They are not completely banned by google. As a reviewer myself, I can assure you that I inspect the ad; the website - not every page but I do look around. No; I do not look in google; and I don't inspect anyones site in IE. I'm not going to look around in google unless my gut tells me to. If I'm not sure about a site; I leave it there and let someone else look. I have no problems denying an ad either. Who are we to tell someone they can't run whatever pages they want within reason on their site? On a personal note; I do agree with you in that I think it looks funky: If I was seriously trying to sell somethiing, I wouldn't put up a page about mesothelioma - it would damage *my* credibility, but not yours. Just a side note: I do have a site in the network - call it a personal site that doesn't sell anything but it does have adsense and affilialiate pages; it has never been promoted; it has no rhyme or reason; but it does have content and it's a pr4. Makes a little money too. Every ad is investigated. I'm pretty sure everyone else is as thorough as I am as well. I have, and I think we do a pretty good job. If the network makes you *that* uncomfortable; don't use it. I have several sites in the network that have not suffered any penalty; I did have one issue, but guess what? It was something *I* did. I corrected it and the site was fine.
Part of my point is that, in the given example, google has penalized the site by severely decreasing the indexed pages and because you can serve ads from another website and point them to one of the 10 pages still in the index, we will be linking to sites that google penalized. By reading the forum there are numerous examples given by users that they actually do this, so we are already linking to websites google de-indexed/penalized. I do agree that you all are doing a great job, am just expressing some of my concerns, which are IMO real threats to the network. Which, again IMO, can be overcome by making sure the ads come from the same domain from which the ads are placed on. That way you can be 100% sure we are not linking out to sites which google has de-indexed/penalized, because they have no weight.