Boost Page Rank or Google Ban?

Discussion in 'Link Development' started by heinz, Jul 18, 2006.

  1. #1
    Hi Google Experts,
    can I increase the page rank of my best web site in this way?
    From another web site with high page rank I would post 40 links like this:
    "http://www.google.com/search?q=keyword&num=1"
    "keyword" would be replaced by all the top ranking keywords of my first site. If a certain keyword is not yet number 1, I would replace the "num=" section with 5 or 10 or so. I noticed, that Google Bot does crawl those Google result sites and actually caches them. The question is: Will Google eventually ban my site with all the links on it? Will it become "bad neighbourhood"? Any violations of Google TOS with this method?
     
    heinz, Jul 18, 2006 IP
  2. SEOMumbai

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    #2
    You could eventually get penalized for that.
     
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  3. mad4

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    I don't think google indexes its own serps. Even if it did then the links would not be counted.
     
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  4. Old Welsh Guy

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    #4
    Mad4 is right, Google does not index its own SERP's it does spider some though from other companies ;)
     
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  5. heinz

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    Sorry folks, Google does index it's own SERP's.
    I saw it with a SERP pointing to my own website. I didn't create that link, but it gave me the idea. You can see it with a Google search on: link: birthtime.info Include a space after link:
    Look at result position 18; it is a link: "www.google.com/pda%3Fq=in%20cold%20blood%20cuteseller&num=100"
    That one contains a deep link to my website "http://birthtime.info". The funny thing is, Google actually treats it as a valuable link to my website. It is listed at position 18 out of 19'800 total links.
    The question remains, will Google penalize me, if I create such links systematically?
     
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    I doubt you will be banned or penalized for this technique, but I do not see any benefit in it at all. There is a very distant chance, that a link from google domain would be valuable, but I do not believe so. And it certainly would not help you pagerank. You'll only receive a fraction of what you'll get if you linked directly.
     
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  7. PinoyIto

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    I saw it at page 3 in my side, and seem's not from googel search but from google directory
     
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  8. mad4

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    #8
    Google indexes the lycos serps and as you have shown it also apparently indexes its own PDA search results (I saw it too).

    These won't count as a backlink to your site though. The reason it shows up when you do a link: www.yoursite.com query is because you left a space after the link: operator.
     
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  9. heinz

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    Hello Vlasta,
    I thought it is valuable, bacause it is listed on position 18 out of 19'800 total links. A direct link to my site I have done already. But now, if I would link to such a Google result page from one of my PR5 sites, the Google result page would get PR4 or at least PR3 after Google bot crawls it again. The link from that PR3/PR4 site, even if it is from Google, should be quite valuable. Consider that I would do it only for my top ranking keywords. (num=1, num=2, num=5) In that way the PR3/PR4 effect would concentrate mainly back onto my own site and would not spread out to many competitor sites.
     
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  10. heinz

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    Hey, that is a great idea. Google wouldn't penalize me for linking to a lot of Lycos result pages. I could create the effect in this way, too.
    What exactly then are these links shown by Google search, when I leave a space after the link: Why would they not count for page rank, even though Google "remembers" them?
     
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    #11
    Not all links to your website are going to help you. Search results are some of those links IMO.
     
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    #12
    If Google was indexing its own index then you'd get a never ending circle of infinite data, unlimited copies of the entire internet on Google's harddisks. Google can be thick at times but not that thick.
     
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  13. mad4

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    T0PS3O Feel Good PLC

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  15. Old Welsh Guy

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    SHIT, that was EXACTLY why I didn't name any of the search engines that google caches SERP's pages of :( Bloody spammers.

    Hey Heinz, great idea, lets fill the SERP's up with other SERP's pages.

    <added> well worth the cost of -1 reputation point I thought :(
     
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    Why does google bother indexing this stuff??? Somebody PM Matt :D
     
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    It's actually in their robots.txt:

    Their dodgy spider doesn't udnerstand their own code :D

    Probably the
    cocking it up.
     
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  18. mad4

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    No such attempts by lycos.co.uk, this is their entire robots.txt file:
    The lycos.com one is even better!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    Mickey F. Mouse!
     
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  20. Old Welsh Guy

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    I hear Mickey mouse wears a lycos watch :D
     
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