Bombing of Dresden

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by ziya, Feb 15, 2009.

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    Thousands turned out on Saturday to protest a march by an estimated 5,000 supporters of Germany's far right on the 64th anniversary of the deadly Allied World War II bombing of Dresden.
    Dresden Bombing

    Dresden was a center of cultural and architectural wonders, including the famous Zwinger Museum and Palace and the cathedral, the Frauenkirche. There were no military objectives of any consequence in the city - its destruction could do nothing to weaken the Nazi war machine

    The Truth about the 1945 Bombing of Dresden

    What do you thinkj about Dresden Bombing ? Was heavy bombing of Dresden right ?

    It will be good to know view of users from German too.

    with hope Peace to world
     
    ziya, Feb 15, 2009 IP
  2. cientificoloco

    cientificoloco Well-Known Member

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    By the time of WWII, bombardment of civilian population was seen as a normal part of warfare. Of course it was awful, and thanks to the many people who protested that kind of actions (either committed by the axis or the allies) we no longer see that as something that can be allowed.
     
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    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    German anti-immigrant, skinhead and neo-Nazi groups in the eastern city of Dresden staged one of their biggest demonstrations since German reunification in 1990 today, as 6,000 extremists marched through the streets, police said.

    Groups tied to the National Democratic Party used the 64th anniversary of the 1945 firebombing of Dresden to hold a “mourning march” through the capital of the state of Saxony. Two counter-demonstrations, led by unions and political activists, drew almost 10,000, police spokesman Marko Laske said.
    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601100&sid=aGstsMp983DI&refer=germany

    It is funny how much some people hate Jews and the West. They will stand side by side with Nazis just because of the hatred in their hearts. Nice job Ziya.
     
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  4. ziya

    ziya Well-Known Member

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    What does it have to do with me browntwn ? and for me , it is really not interesting who did that protest, the protest which is against Dresden Bombing. My intend was to discuss Dresden Bombing. bombing civils.
     
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    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    Yeah, I am sure you are genuinely concerned.
     
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    It is more likely a case of technology allowing us to bomb more precisely. I am sure the Allies would have rather dropped bombs on stategic targets rather than wasting them on museums, residential areas, etc.

    But then again, I wonder why Truman didn't drop the bomb on a less populated area as a show of force first rather than bombing an industrial center. Maybe back then the tactic was pain not warnings.
     
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    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    Since Japan did not surrender even after dropping the first bomb, there is almost no question dropping that bomb in an unpopulated area would not have achieved better results. It took a second bomb for Japan to realize that the threats of utter and total destruction were serious and would follow if they failed to surrender.
     
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    I believe that that the firebombing was wrong but again you have to look at it in context of the war. The Germans instigated strategic bombing on civilian population centers of London and Coventry during the Blitz in 1940-1941 as well as the V1 and V2 attacks.

    Another problem was the the US 8th Airforce was running out of targets and nobody had called them off. For instance, the historic German town of Rothenburg that was more than 1,000 was bombed on March 31, and the old eastern old town (40% of the original city) was destroyed.

    U.S Assistant Secretary of War John J. McCloy called off the attacks. In November 1948 McCloy was named Honorable Protectorate of Rothenburg.

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    Been to that city, you can see what was destroyed and what wasn't. Very beautiful town.
     
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    I lived in Rothenburg ob der Tauber for a month. In one of the towers there is a museum about the destruction. The town has decided to move on since the war and honored U.S Assistant Secretary of War John J. McCloy for saving the town.

    The Palestinains lost WW2 and have decided to keep fighting for the last 60 years. The Palestinians had almost 80% of Palestine Trans-Jordan in 1947 including 50% of Israel .

    In 1967, the Palestinains had all of Gaza and the West Bank including East Jerusalem.

    The Palestinians have been on a slow downward spiral for the last 100 years. It's a shame that they don't take a look at Germany and try to get their house in order.
     
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    Valdor Well-Known Member

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    There was (German) film on tv last night called 'DRESDEN' which showed the bombing, very good film.
    I am English and I can assure everyone that the U.K. does feel bad about the carpet bombing it did during WWII, it is a national shame, but hey, it was war.
    The film I watched gave the impression that Dresden was bombed as it was a supply route to the Germans on the Russian front, it had narrow streets and 'old flamable buildings'.
    Sorry Germany, we did destroy some beautiful cities.
     
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    It was total war, sad but true.

    Civilians were targeted by Germany so the same was afforded to Germany, which is the right thing to do.


    I feel that no civilians should have been targeted.
     
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    Some leaders were targeting civilians but some had foresight to stop it.

    Should the US have carpet bombed Bagdad, because Iraq had targeted the Kurds and Shi'ites?
     
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    Obviously it should be prevented where possible.

    No way, as it has nothing really to do with the US, political pressure yes, carpeting bombing no.

    Total war is only understandable if you are on the receiving end of the same ie the second world war.
     
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    It is still considered normal by some
    hint: isreal
     
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    The Palestinians started the conflict in the1920s rioting against the Jews.

    The Palestinians continue to fire rockets against Israeli cities and send suicide bombers to attack Israelis.
     
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    True. you don't see the BBC report about that!

    and about the bombing of Dresden - do you f*cking kidding?!
    yes, it was too brutal, but US had to do it!!
     
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