Bluefind Directory

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  1. GuyFromChicago

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    #101
    You and me both. I can't see Google even taking the time to address the issue (how often do they comment/react to issue with one site?) and don't understand what kind of glitch could only effect one site. I would think if there were truley a glitch it would have effected hundreds - thousands of sites...not just one.

    Pure speculation here, but my guess is they got whacked for buying/selling PR. If that's the case, wouldn't the Sevenseek Directory be the next target on the list? They use pretty much the same sales tactics as Bluefind.

    If anyone has more info regarding this (like threads where it's being discussed) please post info.
     
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  2. Eli

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    #102
    I'd wait for a clear clue to submit to BF.
     
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    #103
    I just checked with McDar's data center tool and the home page, www.bluefind.com, is showing either 10800 or 10900 backlinks and PR8 on every data center. So obviously the entire site hasn't been dropped or devalued.
     
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    #104
    yeah - but check individual link pages- they arent even cached. even the home page -- Your search - cache:http://www.bluefind.com/ - did not match any documents.


    How could it be a pr 8 and not be cached?
     
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    #105

    Despite a lot of the paranoia I see around seo forums, Google is actually not the trigger happy monster many people appear to think they are. When my original webmaster forum got dropped from Google, it was GoogleGuy who initiated contact and offered to look into the situation (I still have the PM in my webmasterworld inbox :) ). He readily admitted it was an error on Google's part (it had been hit by the expired domain filter), and it was restored to the previous PR and rankings in the next update.


    This time around with BlueFind, I wasn't too worried about it, but after a month of watching the pages drop from Google's index, I took a chance and contacted them again. They seemed sincerely interested in finding a remedy and had the engineering dept look into it. As sure as their word, three days later we had 40,000+ pages back in the index.

    As far as I'm concerned, it was a mole hill. I understand the paranoia surrounding it, but frankly, I don't see much credibility to it. If Google does decide it doesn't like BlueFind, you won't have search high and low for "clues"; you'll see the PR8 disappear from the home page.

    I don't expect Google to do that any time soon; but if they do - that's their right, and we will still keep plugging away at it. PR is not the defining principle of our business.
     
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    #107
    Thanks for the clarification John.

    Leave people to speculate and that's what they will do ;)
     
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    #108
    hmmm... When I search on Google for site:www.bluefind.com I see only 290 pages in Googles index and of those pages roughly 25% are not yet indexed and I still see a PR0 on the home page.
     
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    #109


    Ummmm - how do you see 25% of the pages in the index arent indexed?
     
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    #110
    Google SERP listings which have links only with no title or description are indicative of Google knowing of a link to the page, but have not yet spidered or indexed it.
     
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    #111
    There's a thread about this matter at http://www.v7n.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19296

    pages like http://www.bluefind.com/tos.php still has a pr3 and is still in google cache http://216.239.59.104/search?source...UTF-8&q=cache:http://www.bluefind.com/tos.php

    When i do a search for http://www.google.com/search?source...GGLD,GGLD:2005-07,GGLD:en&q=site:bluefind.com it returns over 19000 pages indexed by google.

    BL's are still over 7000 http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&rls=GGLD,GGLD:2005-07,GGLD:en&q=link:www.bluefind.com

    One other thing is this directory //parentmix.surebaby.com/ is has exactly the same structure as bluefind, maby Google finds the same structure in 2 directories as duplicate content, don't know for sure.
     
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    #112

    Thats kind of saying every forum that uses the same skin/structure will be penalized and this does not happen. There must be thousands using the default vBulletin or phpBB template.
     
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    #113
    Yes you are right, Google has changed the number of pages listed in Bluefind since yesterday, but there are some other significant changes too. For a starter Google only shows by default 32 out of 19,900 pages when you do a site search and many of these pages are in the supplemental index, but both bluefind.com and bluefind.com/index.php are still showing a PR0 even though both pages are cached. It may be that the pages actually have PR again but it will not show on the toolbar until the next update, but it looks to me like Bluefind is not one of Googles favorite sites.

    Nothing to do but wait and see I guess.
     
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    #114
    Looks like Bluefind is still on Google's crap list. Lots of indexed pages but still no PR. Wonder if the directory actually gets any Google traffic.
     
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    #115
    I'd have thought so. Google isn't the only one, but its definitely better to be in Google's good books :)
     
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    #116
    :confused: No idea what you mean.

    ok.....:rolleyes:
     
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    #117
    Hi, I just meant I guess they will get some google traffic as they are still cached in Google.
     
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    #118
    Gotcha.

    I really wonder if they do. I've never had a site penalized like BF is so I really don't know. I would assume they still do get Google traffic...but would not be shocked to find out they don't.
     
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    #119
    Page 4 in google for search "bluefind" (site url only, no description). Top in yahoo.
     
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    #120
    I was just checking that out too...if you're page 4 for your own name in Google odds are you're not getting much traffic from Google.

    I did a Google search for Bluefind Terms of Service looking for this page and it shows up way down the list....
     
    GuyFromChicago, Jul 20, 2005 IP