Blu Ray Ripper copier

Discussion in 'Legal Issues' started by Michellylei, Jul 3, 2009.

  1. #1
    Blue ray disc is copy protected. I want to run a business sell blueray ripper tools.before invest the business, i should comfirm if it is legal to sell blueray duplicators,copier, ripper.

    just a bit off-topic, can u help me with domain for that? what i have is
    anyblu-ray.com dumpbd.com tinybd.com yepbd.com bd mean blu-ray

    updated: just register the domain www.yepbd.com any advices?
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    Michellylei, Jul 3, 2009 IP
  2. hostlonestar

    hostlonestar Peon

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    Well now, that depends on what your intentions for the people to use the software are for. If your intentions are to allow people to make backups of their copys of the disk, you should be ok. I can't think of any case law off the top of my head to support that. And this is just advise you are getting on an online forum, not even a legal forum, but one for webmasters, for free, so take it for what its worth. If you are planning on actually doing this and trying ot make money off it, I'd advice you to spend the $$$$ and ask a real lawyer.

    If you're going to market this as a way for me to burn a copy of my buddy's disk, than no its not ok.

    IMO, you should be fine if you are marketing it as something to allow people to make backups of their disks. There is plenty of this type of software freely available. It kind of runs in line with sites about hacking, they usually market it as a way to test the security of your computer, network, web site, etc.

    Like I said, take it for what you paid for it.
     
    hostlonestar, Jul 6, 2009 IP
  3. scylla

    scylla Notable Member

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    You said it yourself.

    So apparently it would be illegal if the company found you and wanted to take legal action against you.
     
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  4. Michellylei

    Michellylei Active Member

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    anydvd is well known, it seem they no trouble with that.

    hostlonestar
    u right, it depends where the tool come to play. like gun, it kill people or save people.
     
    Michellylei, Jul 7, 2009 IP
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    Pinpointcomm Banned

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    The thing is rather simple, you put on a simple disclaimer along with the tool that the soul purpose of the tool is to back-up or create back-up copies of your Blu-ray or HD-DVD's just keep these things in mind and i'm sure you wont face any problems =]
     
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    samser_m Well-Known Member

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    I think so!
     
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    I know that should a "user" provide the information on your website for copying the discs, you can't be held legally liable because you're simply a conduit for that information (i.e. craigslist). Providing the tools is a completely different ballgame. Getting a lawyer could be expensive now, but handcuffs are uncomfortable and they tend to make you have to get one anyway.
     
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    methomps Peon

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    You should get a lawyer because this is a complicated area of law. There are good arguments on both sides, and it depends on how the case law has developed in terms of things that have legitimate purposes but also can be used as tools to violate IP.
     
    methomps, Jul 11, 2009 IP
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    hostlonestar Peon

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    In the US it is completely fine that way guys.

    scylla, you apparently have no idea what you're talking about. First of all, for the purposes of creating personal backup copies, there is case law establishing its ok. I just don't have the time to search for it atm. 2nd of all, just because a company wants to take legal action against you, or decides to sue you, that does not mean that the act is illegal. People sue all the time for things that are not illegal. Get some legal studies behind you before giving out bad advice.
     
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    will you sell software which are used to rip Blue Ray Disk's ?
     
    remember123, Jul 12, 2009 IP
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    hostlonestar Peon

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    That has nothing to do with it.
     
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    methomps Peon

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    1. Creating a backup of your blu-ray and selling something that allows people to copy blu-rays are not the same things. That doesn't mean the latter is illegal, but the analysis is not the same. Selling something that allows people to copy blu-ray disks means that some people may use that for illegal purposes. Directv, for example, goes after people who sell devices that allow others to steal Directv's feed. The device itself has perfectly legal applications.

    Now I don't follow that case law, so I have no idea what the results have been, but it is not clear cut legal or illegal. This is a case where the only internet advice you should take is "consult a lawyer or don't do it."

    2. Getting taken to court is not something you want. Even if you win, you usually lose because it is so expensive. The ideal is to not even be sued at all.
     
    methomps, Jul 12, 2009 IP