Blantant rip off of my idea / script

Discussion in 'Legal Issues' started by admin@suckered.us, Sep 29, 2007.

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  1. #1
    I concepted suckered.us in early 2006... It was originally tested on screwed.us which I owned at the time..

    Scammed.us came along in Oct 2006 and copied my entire IDEA..

    I have proof of concept from the waybackmachine as posted in this article

    http://scammed.us.copied.suckered.us

    What can we legally do ?
     
    admin@suckered.us, Sep 29, 2007 IP
  2. LayLifeScience

    LayLifeScience Peon

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    #2
    This is the wrong section actually. The post should have been in the "Legal Issues" Section.

    Anyhow, have you tried contacting them? If they refuse to remove the idea(s) copied from you, then perhaps it's time to send a very nice C&D letter.
     
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  3. webmasterlabor.com

    webmasterlabor.com Peon

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    #3
    It's gonna be tough going unless they stole your implementation/script as well.
     
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  4. admin@suckered.us

    admin@suckered.us Banned

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    #4
    Absolutely not. :) I was vigilant on keeping the script a secret and have never let a copy slip my grasp. It has at least 50 more features than that crappy script, both public and internal. I am 100% sure they don't have any of them. Our site also has usage.. ALOT of usage on our side. I feel violated though. My method of design and internal workings is brilliant and I feel like they've attempted to strip me of my work and piggyback using the same concept.

    Why it's in here is because We are already readying a cease and decist but I am wondering about experience copywriting so we can copywrite / trademark the domain / concept.
     
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  5. LayLifeScience

    LayLifeScience Peon

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    #5
    Actually, there's a colossal difference between CopyWRITING and CopyRIGHTING. This is a forum for Copywriters, you know, those who write sales/brochure/web/etc. copy? In the Legal Issues section, there's a whole sticky thread on everything you need to know about Copyrighting. I haven't read it myself but perhaps it could be of help to you :)

    With that said, I hope everything goes well on your end with regards to this issue and I hope you get everything straightened out :)
     
    LayLifeScience, Sep 30, 2007 IP
  6. admin@suckered.us

    admin@suckered.us Banned

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    #6
    ok Thank you!
     
    admin@suckered.us, Sep 30, 2007 IP
  7. theyoungpretender

    theyoungpretender Guest

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    #7
    I use to own the name Scammed.us

    As in "Scammed us",

    My idea was They.Scammed.us :)

    It strated when i got scammed from someone at another forum, and said i would put up a page at NAME.scammed.us (but that was a long long time ago :) )
     
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  8. Meth_

    Meth_ Well-Known Member

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    #8
    there's quite a few sites with that idea that have been around before you

    but I wouldn't worry too much

    it's not even worth your time trying to "take them down"

    think of it this way

    coke, pepsi
     
    Meth_, Sep 30, 2007 IP
  9. Dave Zan

    Dave Zan Well-Known Member

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    #9
    Unless you're able to demonstrate they wrongfully took a copy of your script,
    haven't you heard of the saying, "ideas are a dime a dozen"? Some gave just
    a few examples already.

    Anyway, you can't copyright ideas, although you can seek legal protection for
    the "physical manifestation" of such. (e.g. copyright infringement) Talk to an
    attorney if you wish to explore the possibilities of turning your feelings into a
    reality.
     
    Dave Zan, Sep 30, 2007 IP
  10. admin@suckered.us

    admin@suckered.us Banned

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    #10
    Thanks Dave Zan. :)

    Sure there are tiny url and subdomain scripts but my site is and was the very first to incorporate it into articles. We'll just talk to our lawyer :)
    Frankly it might not be worth doing anything. Why? Well we see 20,000,000 views per month.. They've got a whole five articles since Oct 2006

    Looks like a given up project.
     
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  11. jro

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    #11
    Weren't you selling this script before?
     
    jro, Sep 30, 2007 IP
  12. admin@suckered.us

    admin@suckered.us Banned

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    #12
    At one point I had contemplated it.. but never sold a single copy.. decided against it and went with a one of a kind.
     
    admin@suckered.us, Sep 30, 2007 IP
  13. ipwatchdog

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    #13
    The first thing to know is that ideas cannot be protected by any form of intellectual property. See:

    Can ideas be protected?

    If you do not have the script patented or copyrighted there is little you are going to be able to do. In the US the copyright attaches at time of creation, not registration, but the best remedies are not available unless you register the copyright within 3 months. Also, as was pointed out by others, there will be nothing you can do at all if the actual script was not copied.

    -Gene
     
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  14. admin@suckered.us

    admin@suckered.us Banned

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    #14
    Not too concerned at the moment. :) It's now when thought about a bit of a compliment however I'm happy with our success and their failure to mimic so we're fine. They made a good article.

    Thanks for the tips!
     
    admin@suckered.us, Sep 30, 2007 IP
  15. Parasite

    Parasite Active Member

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    #15
    If you copyrighted the idea, you can get them in trouble for it.
     
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  16. Kamboodle

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    #16
    Suckered.us Domain Registration Date:Sun Apr 22 20:33:11 GMT 2007,
    Screwed.us Domain Registration Date:Tue Dec 05 18:02:43 GMT 2006
    scammed.us Domain Registration Date: Mon Jul 25 19:52:23 GMT 2005

    Also - when could canadians register .us

    Wondering if I should report your whois?
     
    Kamboodle, Sep 30, 2007 IP
  17. AsianKid

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    #17
    Canadians can reg .US? When the fuck that happen.
     
    AsianKid, Sep 30, 2007 IP
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    Danltn Well-Known Member

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    #18
    " To be in compliance with the U.S. Nexus Requirement, all registrants for the .US domain must be either:

    1.

    A natural person (i) who is a citizen or permanent resident of the United States of America or any of its possessions or territories, or (ii) whose primary place of domicile is in the United States of America or any of its possessions, or
    2.

    An entity or organization that is (i) incorporated within one of the fifty (50) U.S. states, the District of Columbia, or any of the United States possessions or territories or (ii) organized or otherwise constituted under the laws of a state of the United States of America, the District of Columbia or any of its possessions or territory.


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    Whois clearly says Canada, Wasn't this invalid registration in the first place?
     
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  19. flamewalker

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    #19
    Kinda hard to say a site made 6 months ago pre-empted a site created over 2 years ago...I get the idea suckered is simply trying to defame a site that has been around a LOT longer, that is despicable.

    As others have said, you can't copyright/TM ideas but if you impliment the idea in a certain way, you can copyright that.

    EDIT - with that said you have no legal grounds + you have a domain you aren't entitled to unless you have a business office in the US...
     
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  20. Kamboodle

    Kamboodle Member

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    #20
    I just found this thread on another forum:

    associatedcontent.com/article/309691/suckeredus_scam_or_simply_not_ready.html


    Ouch.
     
    Kamboodle, Sep 30, 2007 IP
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