Blackhat But Make A lot of Money

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by vntutor, Nov 1, 2008.

  1. NewBeginningsDetox

    NewBeginningsDetox Peon

    Messages:
    110
    Likes Received:
    0
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #41
    using both but be active :)
     
    NewBeginningsDetox, Nov 4, 2008 IP
  2. vntutor

    vntutor Peon

    Messages:
    1,721
    Likes Received:
    19
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #42
    Is there any black hat to get traffic?
     
    vntutor, Nov 8, 2008 IP
  3. leonharvard

    leonharvard Guest

    Messages:
    18
    Likes Received:
    0
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #43
    Blackhat can make you a lot of money in a short time. It just increases your chance of getting you banned.
     
    leonharvard, Nov 8, 2008 IP
  4. CodeWorld

    CodeWorld Peon

    Messages:
    420
    Likes Received:
    12
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #44
    Never did, but will like to try out sometime to see if its worth the effort.
     
    CodeWorld, Nov 8, 2008 IP
  5. Li Weng

    Li Weng Peon

    Messages:
    361
    Likes Received:
    7
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #45
    Blackhat method? What are some examples?
     
    Li Weng, Nov 9, 2008 IP
  6. rooothy

    rooothy Active Member

    Messages:
    113
    Likes Received:
    2
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    73
    #46
    Its not worth it. Honesty is the best policy. Always.
     
    rooothy, Nov 9, 2008 IP
  7. dewman

    dewman Peon

    Messages:
    8
    Likes Received:
    0
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #47
    I reckon blackhat methods are short cuts and tricks to get quick money with little effort. Well, you reap what you sow. Why don't spend the time to learn and sow well for the long term harvest without backfire?
     
    dewman, Nov 9, 2008 IP
  8. ayork2413

    ayork2413 Peon

    Messages:
    89
    Likes Received:
    0
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #48
    it depends on which kind of blackhat method you are using...
     
    ayork2413, Nov 9, 2008 IP
  9. agabob

    agabob Peon

    Messages:
    314
    Likes Received:
    3
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #49
    I'm thinking about blackhat as well. There is piles of webmasters who use blackhat but do it carefully so they actually do not get banned. So following the white hat - what are our chances to win against them. For example if they using fanthomas or search engine cloaker - 2 which get you banned very, very rare -we don't have a chance to win. There is no way that I can build 600 subpages with great content and high keyword density.
    1. That would take years
    2. How many pages can you write about same subject with the same keyword? - there is a limit
    It's like taking a part in the marathon. If half of the contestants will hitchhike - do you have a chance to come first?
    And by the way I think the worse blackhat user is Google. How can you follow their stupid rules if they not making any sense? I have 5% density on 1 keyword and my score is 4/10 - not relevant, I just added another which is repeated on my page exactly twice and in the last 3 days it reached 7/10. Both keywords have huge search volume and high cost - but my cost is lower for second one.
    As I said - Google doesn't make any sense:mad:
     
    agabob, Nov 9, 2008 IP
  10. Red_Virus

    Red_Virus Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    3,756
    Likes Received:
    249
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    135
    #50
    I am really not concerned with the site cheap domains that gets banned from SE's and you can churn them out in volumes. Now my point is that not many affiliate n/w accept blackhat traffic.

     
    Red_Virus, Nov 9, 2008 IP
  11. carfinance

    carfinance Peon

    Messages:
    156
    Likes Received:
    0
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #51
    No I am not using Black Hat
     
    carfinance, Nov 9, 2008 IP
  12. sweetfunny

    sweetfunny Banned

    Messages:
    5,743
    Likes Received:
    467
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #52
    What you do is use your black hat sites to push traffic to your white hat sites (white enough to comply with the affiliate) and convert them there. As far as the affiliate is concerned, your traffic could be coming from Adwords, SERP's or anywhere he doesn't know. So the flow of traffic looks like:

    5,000 Black Hat Site >> White Hat Site >> Affiliate

    So you make a funnel, well so i have heard anyway.
     
    sweetfunny, Nov 9, 2008 IP
  13. billy_ben

    billy_ben Peon

    Messages:
    6
    Likes Received:
    0
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #53
    yeah! can you please explain this thing?
     
    billy_ben, Nov 9, 2008 IP
  14. vntutor

    vntutor Peon

    Messages:
    1,721
    Likes Received:
    19
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #54
    I don't know what you need but you can think of black hat as a trick to make quick cash
     
    vntutor, Nov 10, 2008 IP
  15. Li Weng

    Li Weng Peon

    Messages:
    361
    Likes Received:
    7
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #55
    What's blackhat? Is it unethical or illegal?
     
    Li Weng, Nov 10, 2008 IP
  16. sweetfunny

    sweetfunny Banned

    Messages:
    5,743
    Likes Received:
    467
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #56
    Illegal - It can be, but typically it's not and it all depends on what you do exactly and also depends on the laws on your country or where you operate.

    If i drive a car at 60 is it illegal? If the road is a 40 zone then yes, but if it's a 60 zone then no.

    Unethical - Again it depends, things i do every day might be unethical to the pope but to 95% of the population everything i do is ethical.

    Breaking a "Search engines guidelines" is unethical to them, but if i bought text links and asked my neighbor if it was unethical what would he say? No.
     
    sweetfunny, Nov 10, 2008 IP
  17. Starbolt-

    Starbolt- Peon

    Messages:
    107
    Likes Received:
    0
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #57
    All black-hats, please provide some information for us :)
     
    Starbolt-, Nov 10, 2008 IP
  18. Gallito

    Gallito Peon

    Messages:
    1,939
    Likes Received:
    35
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #58
    I'm typically all whitehat myself but every once in a while I dabble in the black arts ;)
     
    Gallito, Nov 10, 2008 IP
  19. sweetfunny

    sweetfunny Banned

    Messages:
    5,743
    Likes Received:
    467
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #59
    You have to work out your own strategy, if everyone doing black hat followed the same plan or information the method wouldn't be effective.

    Based on my observations of course. ;)
     
    sweetfunny, Nov 10, 2008 IP
  20. chini

    chini Banned

    Messages:
    132
    Likes Received:
    1
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #60
    In the long Run you will make more money with Whitehat then Blackhat. Blackhat is short-term and to tell your the truth its not worth it. You most likely to get banned from programs or sometimes even sued.
     
    chini, Nov 10, 2008 IP