black listed due to spam emails?

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  1. #1
    Is it possible to get your site de-indexed due to the url being advertised in spam emails?
     
    Puddinlover, Oct 7, 2008 IP
  2. vansterdam

    vansterdam Notable Member

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    I rather doubt it. This would be too easy for a competitor to do to you.
     
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  3. snowbird

    snowbird Notable Member

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    Not that I am aware of. However, individual ISP's may blacklist the domain, IP address, or entire host.
     
    snowbird, Oct 7, 2008 IP
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  4. Puddinlover

    Puddinlover Peon

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    Is that common with mass emailing? Because I seen a ad "Email marketing to over 200 million people" so probably not a good idea to use email marketing i guess.
     
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  5. Gallito

    Gallito Peon

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    #5
    This is the same as getting de-indexed by somebody submitting your site to link farms, people would simply do it to their competition.
     
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  6. donepoppedup

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    Nope, not possible..
     
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  7. spice

    spice Active Member

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    Yes only if those email were send to Google
     
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  8. freelistfool

    freelistfool Peon

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    #8
    You won't get penalized by Google, however, if your hosting company or domain registrar gets a bunch of complaints about your site there is a good chance your hosting company will shut down your site. You may also have a hard time getting hosting anywhere reputable after you've been shut down by a major hosting company.

    The way spammers get away with it is that they set up a domain and server on a junk offshore hosting company then send millions of emails all at once. They get shut down by their hosting company and then do it again with another hosting company and another domain name.

    So if you care about your domain name and your company brand you should be very careful about how you send email.
     
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  9. Puddinlover

    Puddinlover Peon

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    Thank you for telling me this! ya I just want a good way to get the word out about my online store. (I sell random "junk".... i dont have a steady stream of retial items so hard to start anything but an ebay store but figured email marketing would drive people to it till i seen you can get your ip address blacklisted from stuff.... so thank you for the heads up ill stay away from it)
     
    Puddinlover, Oct 11, 2008 IP
  10. SoulfulDude

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    Personally I think it could be possible. If your site is a spammy site and the emails you send are very deliberate and obvious spam with links to your very obvious and spammy site then I could see that it would be possible. If there are a lot of complaints about the site and the site has been blacklisted with the major spam block lists like spamhaus and spamcop then I think Google would de-index it. They want to maintain a credible spam free index. If many people complain about your site to Google I think it can be de-indexed. Remember that Google also maintain a list of sites that they warn people against visiting and some of these sites are not in their index.
     
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  11. abook

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    this should be the things, you need to check your bad neighourhood.
     
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  12. Professional Dude

    Professional Dude Prominent Member

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    I doubt it, because as already mentioned, it would be too easy ...
    If you get spammy backlinks, then yes.
     
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  13. SEMSpot

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    SoulfulDude - NO search engine will ever penalize or ban a website that has links used in any email campaign. I don't care if you send out 30 million emails with your site link in it or not. Those emails have ZERO effect on your sites rankings, being penalized or banned. If that were the case, people would hire bulk mailers to easily take out there competitor's websites with ease. Just because a domain name or even an IP address is listed on Spamhaus, that does not mean the SE's will ban you.

    As for offshore hosting, many of the bulk mailers use "bullet proof" hosting and register there domain name offshore as well to avoid being shut down. Bullet proof hosting is more expensive of course then your normal hosting plans. Those hosting companies simply ignore spamcop complaints or just change the IP address or DNS servers that your site resides on.
     
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  14. DoDo Me

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    I don't think so. I have a domain arcog.com for years and got millions of returned junk mail by mail-server as I set one of my email of this domains is receive all. For years, every day I got 500+ returned unsuccessful junk email. I cannot imagine how many success junk email sent.

    Anyway, my point is, this domain work ok and nothing change due to the spam.
     
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  15. sitey

    sitey Active Member

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    no, you can't get punished for that.
     
    sitey, Oct 12, 2008 IP
  16. Abhik

    Abhik ..:: The ONE ::..

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    I don't think so..
    But if anyone receiving spam email reports your site to google, then it might be a problem.
     
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  17. wisdomtool

    wisdomtool Moderator Staff

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    I think deindexing would be the least of your troubles, spamming normally results in hosting companies termination, black listing by RBL and tons of email complaints. Some RBL especially SORBS require payment to be delist. Also depending on where you are, you may be subjected to a criminal case or a civil law suit if your spam is serious enough for eg 200 million.....
     
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