black hat seo google-what is this?

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by danielspencer2, Jan 16, 2007.

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    ok i have read some people on other forums talking about black hat seo tricks on google? what is black hat seo and what are sort of tricks are there and where can i find out more about this for free?
     
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  2. mitchandre

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    back hat SEO tricks will always get you caught by google eventually. Just not worth it. A sample would be to include a bunch of text at the bottom of your page that was the same font color as your background, so that google would see it, but your audience wouldn't. That is a basic newbie example of what you shouldn't do! But, what black hat tricks are.
     
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  3. Richie_Ni

    Richie_Ni Illustrious Member

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    Definitions of black hat seo on the Web:

    * This is Unethical SEO. Search Engine Optimization techniques and methods are employes which fall outside of the guidlines issued by the Major Search Engines such as Google, Yahoo and MSN. Implementation of this tyoe of Search Engine Optimization may provide short term gains for your site(s). If you are discovered as using these techniques you can be placed under a penalty by the Search Engine. ...


    Usually people put up a lot of hidden keywords in a page.
     
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    Thibaut Well-Known Member

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    Angelus Well-Known Member

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    Everything is said. But let's be honest, even Google itself does a kind of a black hat, they redirect you to your countries google.TLD by checking your ip and they say that webmasters should do that...

    p.l.u.r.
     
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    Is black hat seo legal?
     
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  7. Angelus

    Angelus Well-Known Member

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    What do you mena by legal? You wont go to jail because of it be Google might deindex you site...

    p.l.u.r.
     
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    Lordo Well-Known Member

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    It is not "illegal" but every search engine has its own rules. So, google may penalize or ban a site for certain blackhat seo techniques.
     
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    Blackhat is defined as the only way to get to the top of the serps until the G algo is perfected.:eek:

    Just kidding. Its something that should be considered quite a bit before implementing. Most BH techniques will get you banned or deindexed once discovered.


     
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    omg what r u talking?
    Kindly remember that redirection ins "NOT" a black hat tech. Unless its done in excess, or otherwise its not from a doorway page. 301 redirections r never illegal.

    Domain redirection is not black hat tech.... this is the reason G's new algo is much more concentrated on country specific domains.

     
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    No its not legal.... these techs are considered as spamming. Which will may eventually lead ur website to get banned some fine day. So keep urself a little away.....

    But its seen that by using these techs (but in controlled manner)... u won't be banned. But better not to take chance.

     
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    Do you actually know what are you talking about? Don't make people laugh with thigs you don't understand. Go to any PPC, like umax, and check webmaster toplist - there are people making $5,000-10,000 daily with black hat seo.
     
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    crushed_kid Banned

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    Black hat SEO tricks are unethical methods used in SEO like keyword stuffing (repeated keywords in a site), link farm, cloaking, hidden texts, doorway pages, spamdexing, and many more. :)
     
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    What's all this about ethics?

    Who says most of the black hat tactics mentioned here are unethical?

    Unless someone made Google a moral authority all of a sudden, it has nothing to do with ethics.
     
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    Well, it is the term used in black hat SEO, please read articles for details

    www[dot]oyster-web[dot]co[dot]uk/glossary[dot]htm
     
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    Ok.. this thread is a hoot… why not?

    Here’s the gig…. (one of many approaches)

    Grab a server and put it in yer room
    Grab a few hundred domains
    Get mass Keyword lists (and bad word exclusions filters)
    Fire up the site creator and feed in your lists ( MyGen, RSSGM whatever)
    Then fire up yer link spamming tools (Matt Cutts likes DITY – ask Dave Naylor )
    Apply your monetization ( Adwords, Affiliate stuff - whatever)

    Then crank the server into ‘rinse and repeat’ mode and have it creating sites and link spamming 24/7

    Now folks.. THAT is black hat… you wouldn’t catch any self respecting BH fishead doing KW stuffing on a WH site… that’s just nOObs and webmasters trying to play the game….

    IT IS NOT ILLEGAL – As I like to say – SEO = Search Engine Opportunist

    .... so sure, some silly KW stuffing stuff may be called BH - it is NOT what real BH is about
     
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    Perhaps more people know that BH is unethical. But it's because that's what google wants us to believe. I can't say that BH is totally worthless because I've read a lot about webmasters earning a lot of money from it. It's like a short term thing that you should not rely on too much though. Like a gamble. :D
     
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    Yuppers... most of the ex-BHatters I know got out because it 'felt empty' as far as building something 'solid' with their endeavors...

    I certainly can't use it on my client's sites... it's simply part of the SEO education for me
     
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    True! BH is definitely a part of SEO education. To be an expert, you need to know what things are considered "good" and "bad" and when to use them.
     
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    just because the term is used by some 'experts', does not mean it is correctly applied.

    in my view, most Black Hat SEO is not unethical. it is just that Google says it is because it suits them to say so. they are no moral authority in my eyes!
     
    BuenosAires, Jan 17, 2007 IP