Blach Hat Seo And White Hat Seo Which One Is Best?

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by Chan Ruskin, Feb 8, 2013.

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    Hi friends am buy one site and give about my services..I have a doubt for that website what type of services i will do like black hat seo or white hat seo which one is more effective?

    Please friends give your advice.
     
    Chan Ruskin, Feb 8, 2013 IP
  2. MrJohn

    MrJohn Well-Known Member

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    Well, do you want to build a site that is a ticking time bomb from the start? That is what you get when you participate in black-hat activities during your SEO campaign. There is no question that you should always try and do things the right way the first time around, that way you don't run the risk of getting banned from the search results. I mean, what is the use of ranking well for a month? Nothing, you want to rank well for as long as possible, and that only comes with quality white-hat SEO.
     
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  3. ryan_uk

    ryan_uk Illustrious Member

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    It depends on how you define white hat. There is a misguided definition of white hat: if it's done manually, then it's white hat. The fact is, manually or automated, if it's not allowed in Google's Webmaster Guidelines, then it's black hat, never mind how you try to paint it. Forget about hats and just play it safe, unless you want to be bent over by one of Google's updates.
     
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  4. Wulkanen

    Wulkanen Well-Known Member

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    Don't do blackhat if you care for your websites success. Blackhat will get you indexed ad ranked fast, but after a while Google will catch you and de-index most of your content...
     
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    pasbancity Banned

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    if you use tools for seo then black hat if you do seo without tool white hat seo best is white hat
     
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  6. ryan_uk

    ryan_uk Illustrious Member

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    Just a fine example of someone utterly misguided about the concept of White Hat SEO.
     
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  7. Wulkanen

    Wulkanen Well-Known Member

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    I think he meant that most SEO tools are blackhat due to automation of processes to build backlinks and so on. But of course, tools that find keywords, locate websites to comment on or similar is not blackhat.
     
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  8. ryan_uk

    ryan_uk Illustrious Member

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    Whether you automate the process of building backlinks or not, it can be considered black hat. The point isn't automation, but is what you're doing in terms of SEO. Does it violate Google's or Bing's webmaster (or whatever search engine's) guidelines? If so, it is black hat.
     
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  9. Wulkanen

    Wulkanen Well-Known Member

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    Yes I know that they want natural links/articles, structured websites, no hidden things etc. but many SEO tools mass produce backlinks from low quality places. Sure, you can still build backlinks in a blackhat way manually, but if you're looking for a blackhat SEO tactic like the guy who started this thread is, then you'll most likely come across a software created to automate and mass produce backlinks.

    Anyways, I'm not arguing against you. Do what Google says is ok and you will hopefully be alright.
     
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  10. maverickk3

    maverickk3 Notable Member

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    Fellas!

    The truth in only one !
    Google hates SEO generally when it comes with purpose.
    What i mean :
    We are in 2013 , google has become smarter and smarter .
    Tries to understand which website can help users to find the best answers and the best articles that could help the user who did the search find the solutions to his /her problem.
    Trying to bombing google with automated methods and blackhat or greyhat SEO that would have as a result a permanent ban .
    YES a permanent ban!!!!! Deindex!!! as Wulkaner said correctly!
    Someone could say , its ok that is not my problem , i just need to do some cash and i am moving to the next project .
    YES, BUT are you a user , who lets say a thousand dollars would make you happy ?
    If yes go on with your balck hat SEO tech nicks, but if you are a webmaster that need to have an established business and want to go to the next level , NEVER do blackhat SEO .
    Real SEO is not just 3 words "search engine optimisation " its the heart of search engines.
    Its the reality !
    Do you have to write something new ? something unique ?
    Just write it!
    Could you give links and sources in your content that would help google to do the work ? Just do it!
    Could you give google to understood that something you are saying is serious and has authority via the social media ?Just do it!
    Could you give google some extra rich content such as images-videos-reviews to understand you more clear what you really want to say ? , just do it!

    So f...k blackhat and redhat and greyhat and bluehat and just be a nice part of internet!

    Regards

    Mavrikos Panagiotis
     
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  11. Rana Adeel

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    Its very simple Chan Ruskin if you wanna earn money for short time period= Black hat SEO
    And if you wanna earn money long term period= White hat SEO
    With black hat SEO you can earn money till Google update but after Google update your ranking getting down at zero. :)
     
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    If you are serious about your business, you will stay away from black hat SEO.
    Simple as that.
     
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    Yes i agree with your thoughts. The rules which are not related to Google webmaster guidelines are comes under Black hat process.
     
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    Personally I prefer to use White-hat techniques because white hats may take a long time to build a website, but they will ensure that the website will be alive, always working and create the most positive experience for the traffickers/visitors. Black hat techniques are only good for quick and short-lived results, but if you can somehow switch from black-hat to white-hat, then you'd have to be really skilled and that could also be another option for you. For the long-term websites, use white-hat techniques, and for short-term websites use black-hat.
     
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    Some interesting answers on this thread.

    In answer to your question it depends how you actually define black hat and white hat. Some people on this thread seem to believe that if you don't use tools and software then you are using white hat seo techniques, which is complete rubbish.

    I guess I use black hat techniques, which doesn't involve spamming 10,000 auto approve blogs via scrapebox, but does involve going out and getting high quality links from various sites, many of which are paid.

    Why do i do that? Because it works! Is it always going to work? Haven't got a clue, but can't honestly see how it wouldn't.
     
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    Depends on your income source for Adsense do not use Blackhat if you selling something viagra i guess blackhat is the way to go. Short term Black Hat is good but when Google see it your domain is gone and your time to move on to a new one.
     
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  17. MarleneL.Haines

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    I think white hat SEO is better
     
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    It doesn't bode well for White Hat if someone claiming it's better gets banned. :rolleyes:
     
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    Of course white hat techniques but my personal suggestion is; ask for help from a professional person especially if your website is in English and you should do link building in English.
     
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    website murah Greenhorn

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    i think grey SEO :p
     
    website murah, Feb 14, 2013 IP