Big Problem! How do I transfer my site to a different host without losing my info

Discussion in 'Web Hosting' started by MyHub, May 14, 2010.

  1. #1
    I host on Yahoo! Web Hosting and I used Yahoo! Site Builder to build my website.
    My traffic is getting BIG! Over 30,000 Uniques Per Day!

    Yahoo! Says Unlimited Hosting, but I think they're not truthful. I think they will ban me soon.

    My Questions:
    1. How do I transfer my website hosting without losing my info??
    2. What hosting program do I use?? I want one that supports at least 100,000 Uniques Per Day!

    This is a big problem, and I hope you can help.
     
    MyHub, May 14, 2010 IP
  2. Fastian

    Fastian Peon

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    I never used Yahoo hosting so I am not sure what control panel they use. (is it cPanel or something else?)

    If they are using cPanel then you can just take a full backup of your site and your new host will be able to restore everything from it. (You wouldn't have to do much)

    If it's a custom made control panel, they the only option you have is download everything from your site via FTP and upload it to your new provider. Few providers would even do that for you. Most wouldn't as it's time taking job. In this case, you wouldn't be able to transfer your statistics and emails.

    Now, regarding your traffic.. 30K unique a day is a pretty decent traffic. (Dynamic sites with that kid of traffic may cause issues with shared hosting) Considering you are fine with Yahoo hosting, you will most likely be fine with any reputable shared host. If you do get 100K unique a day, then you should get either a decent semi-dedicated host or a decent VPS. (100k unique is out of Shared hosting limits)

    Just avoid extreme oversellers (unlimited hosts) and you will be fine. :)
     
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  3. MyHub

    MyHub Well-Known Member

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    Great info! Thanks. Now what hosting configuration do I need? Bandwidth? RAM? Etc?
    I have no idea what to pick.

    Here's my site info:

    - Standard HTML (no dynamic)
    - About 150 pages
    - Each page size is 54KB
     
    MyHub, May 14, 2010 IP
  4. Snoork Hosting

    Snoork Hosting Active Member

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    Since you are receiving a pretty high amount of traffic, I would recommend looking into a virtual private server solution of for extreme performance a dedicated server solution.

    The bandwidth is determined based on how much traffic your website receives, but if you decide to go with a dedicated server solution, dedicated servers offer large amounts of bandwidth, over 2,000 GB monthly.

    You can start of with a 2 GB Ram, which should be clearly enough for your website with the pages and sizes you provided. But if you will ever need more Ram, you can always upgrade a dedicated server to a more ram.

    You may ask your hosting company to transfer your data to their service or you can simply download the backup files and upload the backup files to your new hosting service.
     
    Snoork Hosting, May 14, 2010 IP
  5. Fastian

    Fastian Peon

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    Seems like you don't need much disk space. However, due to high traffic your bandwidth demands would be higher.
    Don't you have any Data from your Yahoo Hosting account?? Can't you see how much BW you have consumed last month and current month. That will give you better idea.

    I would say go with shared host that can give you at least 100GB bandwidth. (With most hosts you can purchase additional bandwidth for a nominal fee) You may want to use Semi-Dedicated hosting so you get more resources for your site.

    With VPS (even managed) you must have some understanding of server maintenance/usage. So if you are not a tech guy, consider Shared/Semi-Dedicated hosting.

    Come on now... DO you really think he need Dedicated server for that site?? Dedicated server is way to much for his site needs.
     
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  6. Snoork Hosting

    Snoork Hosting Active Member

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    The member has requested that he would like a hosting service that can handle at least 100,000 unique visitors per day, which may range from 200,000 page views to 1 million page views a day. In that case, shared hosting environment is definitely not the best option for the member due to the amount of traffic the website will be receiving and the ability to handle up to 100,000 unique visitors a day.

    From the amount of traffic the member mentioned, virtual private server or a dedicated server would be the best option in this case.
     
    Snoork Hosting, May 14, 2010 IP
  7. indexhtml

    indexhtml Active Member

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    The site's pages are very small in size and even with 30,000 page views per day the traffic would equate to around only 50 gig per month. This traffic load within itself would not be a problem for a shared plan with decent storage and transfer limits. The issue maybe cpu usage on oversold shared servers. But you could try a high end shared plan first from a good host that also offers VPS and Dedicated servers so you can upgrade if you needed to.

    Good luck.
     
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  8. dlanor

    dlanor Peon

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    Shared hosting environment will do fine for him, why?

    OP has not mentioned about Yahoo sending him any warning about it, just that he is feeling that they will ban him soon because he thought he is consuming a fairly large amount of resources.

    If average calculation is taken into consideration,
    Lets take 2 million page view (PV) over a 24 hours period :)
    The website is serving 83333 PV per hour (23 PV per second) in average.
    If the peak period is 4 times the average PV, 330000 PV per hour (92 PV per second)
    A 92 PV per second is certainly not demanding on the system resources, yes, I have seen it, done it. You have to remember, its a html page with 54KB in size. Well, thats only if his new hosting provider is not overloading it.

    His only concern is about how much bandwidth he is using, but its not much of an issue. VPS or dedicated server is certainly overkill and stretch his budget. To plan for his growth in future, he should look for a hosting provider that offers semi-dedicated (shared hosting environment but have high system resource allowance) solution.

    Why semi-dedicated over VPS?
    The OP has no special requirement and may not have the server administration expertise. His concern will be just allowing him to burst over a fair amount of system resource occasionally. Having him to go over VPS path, will mean extra license fee, paying for server administration, etc..
     
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  9. lordspace

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    I'd go with VPS or dedicated server route. Short answer - reliability.
    30k pageviews/day should be more than enough to cover expenses for a VPS ($20-$40 - 256mb ram/10gb space/100gb bandwidth) with nginx.
    Because his site is (mostly) static I would write a script that compresses every file with gzip with maximum compression.
    Then I'd setup a rewrite rule that picks up the .gz file if exists ... the idea that Wordpress's super cache plugin is based on.
     
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  10. kasuwa1235

    kasuwa1235 Greenhorn

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    full backup your database and restore it your new hosting acc , i recommend hostgator hosting
     
    kasuwa1235, May 15, 2010 IP
  11. techlineinfo

    techlineinfo Well-Known Member

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    Hostgater offers free transfer without downtime
     
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  12. schnups

    schnups Active Member

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    I would check out HawkHost. Many of our customers are satisfied with them.
     
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    i would definetely go for dedicated vps but be sure you get a good profit for paying hosting prices..............
     
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    windy Active Member

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    maybe you can try contact Yahoo! Web Hosting to upgrade your hosting plan
     
    windy, May 29, 2010 IP
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    Hostgator offers free website transfer. HG has VPS now on top of its dedicated server.
    You can also try Knownhost.com or WiredTree.com hosting.

    Your site needs a VPS, not a shared hosting account which is common these days.
     
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    kargaa Well-Known Member

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    Nothing is unlimited, there are strict rules on agreement about cpu usage and file cases.
    I could offer you web hosting solution.
     
    kargaa, Jun 18, 2010 IP