Big disappointment in "made-for-adsense" websites

Discussion in 'General Marketing' started by Freddy81, Dec 28, 2005.

  1. Freddy81

    Freddy81 Well-Known Member

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    #21
    Surely - I use them for a year to market my software product.
    But now we are talking about Made-For-Adsense websites, made with high-paying keywords. To promote such a site, you need to compete among Adwords publishers, paying much money for taking people to your spammy site.

    See:
    To bring 100 visitors to your MFA site, you pay $200.
    Let's assume you have very good CTR=10%.
    This means you get 10*2=$20 as adsense earnings.

    That's why I wonder how these guys survive.
     
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  2. topsites

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    #22
    The problem is nobody wants that (no offense sir).
    Here's the thing...
    See, you got no real content to attract the visitor. No images, no programs, no files of any kind... No information (news, weather, et.al.), not even a bit of entertainment...

    Here:
    1) Create a site contains hacks and cracks. Even links to good stuff works but if you can host some programs (freeware!!!) that would be good.
    2) Google provides spyware removers / antivirus and other related stuff in their ads.

    Now THAT works, LOL !

    The trick is looking long and hard for the stuff. Unfortunately you can't just put up the everyday Adaware SE / Winamp crap because everyone either already has it or they don't want it. So you have to find the out of the way stuff AND you have to test it to make sure it is good (oh yeah, the fun has just begun).

    Give them CONTENT !!!
    Gigs of it !!! (thou a few hundred meg is good, the smaller progs (less than 5m in size) work better due to it taking 5-7 minutes per meg for a dial-up connection, users spend half-hour downloading a prog it better be good but nobody is going to wait all day, no matter HOW good).

    Actually ... I gave up a 300meg full version movie once that gained everyone's attention, but it really has to be right and what happens is, the broadband guys brag to their dial-up friends until they DO wait all day for it to finish (if it's that good, they will, but usually not upfront, not without knowing you full and well).

    Give them mods, give them midis, give them cd-roms worth of image files, that will get them there.
    Then, put up a few ads where adsense 'clicks'... Some pages it just doesn't, dunno why, but then that's just an ad-free page, nothing wrong with that for sure.
     
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  3. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #23
    This is, of course, in violation of the Google AdSense Program Policies:
     
    Will.Spencer, Dec 30, 2005 IP
  4. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #24
    Judging from a barely literate comment I received with an anonymous red rep, it appears that I must clarify my previous comment.

    I don't care what your site is about. Google is the one who sets these rules. I am a supporter of free speech. Google is a California-based PC (Politically Correct) company where most of the decisions are now made by lawyers.

    I am just warning you that you may invest thousands of hours in building a web site only to have the site removed from the AdSense program. I did this to save you from the eventual loss and grief that would almost inevitably occur.

    I don't make the AdSense rules. I am not Google.
     
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  5. AdsenseOptimized

    AdsenseOptimized Peon

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    #25
    for those people that are actually interested in Adsense Ready sites check out the first link in my sig.

    Derek
     
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  6. liquidboy

    liquidboy Peon

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    #26
    10% CTR for a $200 investement doesnt translate to a $20 return. If done right it can result in 10 times that... Adwords works if you know how to use it!

    ie. keep reading digitalpoint forums (dig deep) and you will find clues as to how to achieve this..

    :)
     
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  7. debunked

    debunked Prominent Member

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    #27
    Good statements - probably should add as a footer to all posts in the adsense threads.
     
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  8. tesla

    tesla Notable Member

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    #28
    This just confirms what I've read all along. Theme based websites will do better than mainstream sites over the long term. Kevin Envoy's book talked about it and its true.

    I have a similar niche site with scientific info on it also, and it is surpassing my other sites in PR as well as affiliate sells. There aren't many sites out there for the implementation of neural networks for measuring tasks, so you basically dominate that niche.

    Getting links maybe a bit hard, though.
     
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  9. ConstantContent

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    #29
    I think one problem that a lot of people run into when trying to create adsense sites, is using free content from free article directories. When your creating a site for adsense original content is the key. Using free articles from other sites is a HUGE mistake. The duplicate content will not only hurt you, but it will also bring in very little if any adsense income.

    I know many people out there that do this successfully, but it has to be the right niche (not to competitive) and have a lot of original content.
     
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  10. wild boar

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    #30
    That's why freddy, once I see a credit card site or a loan site, it's time to hit the back button on the browser. Besides, making websites just to place adsense on them is against googles terms of service. Google doesn't want you to make spam sites like credit card, loans, etc just for adsense.. that's what ruins it for everyone.
     
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  11. tesla

    tesla Notable Member

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    #31
    That is very true for me to. I avoid credit/loan sites like the plague. The best sites I've ever seen online are sites that few people thought to create, like www.urbandictionary.com, which is a PR 7 site.

    Who would have thought to create a site about slang urban words where visitors can add their definitions and stuff?

    It is niche sites like this which succeed. Man I wish I had thought of that site. In the future i'm going to build sites that are really creative which have very little competition and no one has thought of.

    Its better to write your own articles or to find a low cost writer who can write them for you.
     
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  12. poseidon

    poseidon Banned

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    #32
    Well I couldn't have agree with you anymore :) I did the same blunder by making a site on webhosting and after three months realized that it's a waste. I wasn't getting any traffic and to be honest, I was having no reason that why should someone come to my site ? I had made lot's of content by copying from others and modifying from them. Now I DON'T HAVE ANY SITE..but I am interested in mobile technology and am working on it. Hopwfully I can rectify my mistakes from the past.
     
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    toughguy Well-Known Member

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    #33
    You are right Freddy..

    Main aim of a blog or site is to provide useful info to visitors..

    Thanks,
     
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  14. ConstantContent

    ConstantContent Banned

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    #34
    This is plagiarism and not legal at all, you can't take someone else's content and modify it. Not only is it illegal but Google is much smarter then this and unless you completely rewrite the content (not just change a bunch of words) its still duplicate content.
     
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    ConstantContent Banned

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    #35
    I would say a site made from free articles and duplicate content would qualify as a "Made For Adsense Site".
     
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  16. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #36
    Unless it was made for co-op weight. :rolleyes:
     
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    ConstantContent Banned

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    #37
    True.. But I think people are realizing these sites don't hold the weight they once did. Google for one has caught onto this, not so much MSN and Yahoo.
     
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    Nintendo ♬ King of da Wackos ♬

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    #38
    I got a duplicate content article site that I've had for almost a year. Yesterday I started a new site that's unique content. It already gets more visitors a day than the almost year long duplicate content site does!!! And I've hardly done anything to give it visitors, and it's not even listed in Google yet. :D
     
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  19. ConstantContent

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    #39
    Could have sworn you lived by the "free content" not to long ago... I remember debates over on Sitepoint about this, you used to say why pay for it when its free. Glad to see your starting to see the light ;)
     
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    #40
    Ya I admit that but I had also put links from where I have taken the article(I don't remember the name of the site which provide free article if you keep the author name and his link intact). I just wanted to put some content :) and that was the first time I was doing all this. I guess I learned this the hardway that plagiarism don't pay :(

    Anyway now it is gone, so no harm done. Now I will write my own site completely on my own ideas and content on my favourite topic(related to computers or programming or mobiles) and not on Web Hosting :p .
     
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