Big Brother Out Of Control! - "Cameras in Private Homes" and "Businesses"

How much longer before they're putting cameras in your home?

 

Never.... where do you get putting cameras at intersections and outside high crime apartment complexes = cameras in your home Slight overexaggeration hmmm

I want to see where they are putting cameras in private homes. I just see it mentioned. I want to know the circumstances. I want to know why. Instead of just assuming like you do.

While I disagree with this this is the closet thing to "in the home". Yet again you trying to blow things up and make them sound worse than they are.

Don't want cameras on your property? Stop fucking up constantly.

 

The police cheif made the proposal, hopefully the people who have to approve this stupid law will reject it.

The point is we have authoritive figures everyday pushing for more and more privacy invading measures like cameras. I'd like to be able to walk around outside of my home and not be on camera every step of the way, regardless of what I'm doing.

 

I want to know where it says it will be inside your private home.

You know what I would like to be able to do yo-yo? Park my fucking car in my driveway with out someone breaking into it. If they want to put a camera in my neighborhood and watch my driveway they can. Cut that shit out real fast. You always are so fucking negative and don't care to see any positive in anything. It very well could cut down crime but you don't give a shit you want to act like they are watching you take a shower.

Shit dude you want to know why people are so hostile here its because you, tesla and anthonycea got to be so negative all the time. You point out the bad and do not want to even think about any good that may come out of it. You obviously have never woken up to walk outside get in your car and realize some jackass just made off with 2000 dollars worth of stereo equipment like they have done to me.

It's like watching the damn news when I come to this part of the forum. 99% negative with a hint of Bush bashing.

 

And I don't want my hard earned tax dollars going towards cameras that make you feel safe at night. Protect your own damn things without my tax money.

Just like the war on drugs cut the amount of drugs on the street?
Or just like the war on terror didn't create a 1,000 times more terror attacks?

A little fucking camera isn't going to stop anyone from driving up to your driveway at 4am in MASKS with a license plate COVERED and steal your stupid stereo just like before - and NEVER BE CAUGHT, all the while, wasting my tax dollars AND invading my privacy. It doesn't take a genious to figure these things out.

Actually, I've had my previous car broken into 4 times and over $6,000 worth of stereo equipment stolen from it. You shouldn't assume things about people you don't know. I got rid of the car and stopped buying rediculous stereos - and I moved to a nicer neighborhood where I can leave my front door unlocked.

You can afford all that stereo equipment but you want my tax dollars to pay for security for it... give me a break.

 

I'm not for cameras everywhere, but I would have loved them in the corridors of my block of apartments when the bastards who were there emptying my place took 100+ DVDs, 400+ CDs, 6 game consoles plus games, my Laney GC50 guitar amp, my mountain bike, and tonnes of personal stuff that money can't buy.

 

Fine get rid of all the cops and firefighters then. Don't want them taking up your tax dollars.

See what I mean? Real rational thinking.

So when I kill the asshole breaking into my car you will have my back right?

You obviously have no will to reduce crime and get these assholes off the street.

You can not compare war on drugs to domestic disturbances and breakins

1,000 times huh? SLIGHT OVEREXAGGERATION AGAIN Funny how it has created 1,000 times more terror yet there have been no terror attacks in America.

You give criminals too much credit. At the very least we get a vehicle description and description of the perps.

What privacy are you afforded OUTSIDE YOUR HOME? Show me where the constituion protects your right to privacy outside your home.

 

I'd be more than happy to see many current police officers fired, they're just as bad as the scum they put in jail.

I think you should be able to use all the force neccessary to stop them from stealing your things, absolutely.

Cameras aren't going to stop it. If they know a camera is watching they'll just wear a mask - if they know you have the right to be armed, and the right to come outside shooting, I think that's a far better prevention.

Sure I can. The failed war on drugs is directly related to other small crimes and breakins.

How many terror attacks ON AMERICANS had there been before 9/11? maybe 1 every couple years... how many are there DAILY now in Iraq? 1,000 times more is probably pretty accurate.

Yes, and when my car was broken into 4 times , 2 of them I had witnesses and VEHICLE LICENSE PLATES. The cops did absolutely nothing.

I didn't say that did I? You're really good at putting words in peoples mouths.

Just because the constitution doesn't say it, doesn't mean I shouldn't have it.

 

lol if your outside there is no privacy. You are a smart one eh?

England uses cameras on about every street corner and have some of the lowest crime rates in the world. You figure it out. Somehow they still manage to survive with Big Brother watching them shower

How many terrorist attacks before 9/11 went unanswered?

All of them did.

The failed war on drugs does not show any kind of evidence that street cameras could not cut down crime. Good grief.

I am sorry the cops did nothing but you know what? Stop making out all cops to be like the ones you have had experience with. Get out of there like you said they did. The cops here are more than helpful. I got woken up at 3AM two weeks ago because they were chasing someone in my neighborhood and my garage door was open. They wanted to make sure everything was alright here.

Stop acting like everyone is out to get you, shit.

Attacks on military are not considered terrorist attacks. The USS Cole is not a terrorist attack it is a military action.

1992 WTC bombing is a terrorist attack. Khobar tower bombing is a terrorist attack.

 

Yet somehow groups of teens are raping 12 year old girls on the street.

When you have the FBI cooking and serving the bomb to the terrorist (WTC 93) it's no wonder why they went unanswered.

I'm sort of speeder, and I have a "mirror like" cover over my license plate (to stop cameras from taking pictures of it) so I encounter the police several times a year.

In the last 5 times I went to court (traffic tickets nothing serious), EVERY SINGLE TIME the police officer LIED UNDER OATH. Granted I won 4/5 cases, it's more than enough to show me the police don't give a **** about me or you.

Then why are we detaining these people fighting in Iraq and labeling them "terrorists" and "enemy combatants" ... btw... the USS Cole attack wasn't done by a "military", it's not a military action, genious.

 

Most criminals will not get up to mischief if they know cameras are there.

They will not don masks or cover their plates - they will simply do their burglaries where there aren't any camera's. Criminals are all about minimizing risk - that's why most won't touch a house with a visible alarm system or signs displaying that you have dogs in the home. They will target homes and areas where there is little risk of being caught.

Yo-Yo: You would prefer to shoot your burgler then prevent him coming down your street in the first place. This my friend, is a fact. You will no doubt agree, too. Perhaps you should think why that is.

Pete

 

What happens when cameras are everywhere?

They already do

Yet you think having a gun makes you a target... you really are something else

I happen to live in reality, where I know that unless you have complete control over every persons life there will always be crime, and always be criminals. Prevention is fine when it doesn't infringe on peoples rights and freedoms.

 

Then we get a hell of a lot less hassle from petty criminals and burglars.

Cameras will never enter our home.

Perhaps in South Africa. Crime is a little more 'up-scale' there.

That's because it does if you display it openly in public on your belt like you suggested.

You can reduce crime. Cameras out in public do not infringe on your rights. It's no different from the police standing on every corner.

I aren't doing anything wrong, put the fucking camera's up so I don't have to deal with petty criminals and troublesome youths.

Pete

 

That was beautiful. Do you know what "police standing on every corner" is called?

It's called a POLICE STATE.

And you're right. Having cameras everywhere isn't much different than living in a police state... which is EXACTLY what I want to PREVENT.

 

Well you can't - especially if you're not doing anything but posting in forums about what's happening in other countrys then your own.

Pete

 

Can you cite a source for this comment? Also, when you say "world", I hope mean the North and are not comparing England's crime to that of a LDN like Somalia.

England has higher motor vehicle thefts and Burglaries than the US does (DOJ).

 

In America, that's correct. There's no right to privacy in a public environment. Many mistakenly say it violates their right to privacy, but really it just makes people feel uncomfortable, because it's a newer concept.

Putting cameras in a hotel room or house is different, because there's expected privacy there. Even the hotel lobby might be legally off limits.

 

What a bunch of morons. The best cameras in the world are in banks. Yet thieves try to rob banks daily in broad daylight with witnesses.

Yeah, that's an intelligent decision, cameras will scare thiefs.

That's the funniest thing I ever fucking heard!

Negetive enough? Can I be in the Anthony CEA club now?

 

If that true, why can I be prosecuted for a sex crime for taking and having a picture of your wifes underware I took in public?

 

You are mixing up issues of privacy, media and outside actions.

If I had sex with someone in a public place, I can not expect privacy. That has nothing to do with taking pictures. It has to do with others being able to watch. There's a difference.

Also in your scenario, you committed a crime by stealing the underwear. That has nothing to do with privacy.

The right to privacy means the right to limit "viewership" to only those invited into the environment.