Bidvertiser is a SCAM! (bidvertiser.com) - Watch Out!

Discussion in 'Pay Per Click Advertising' started by LBDecoy, Apr 30, 2017.

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    Hello everyone! this thread is to spread the word about the network which is called "Bidvertiser" they are a bunch of scammers & below i'll be explaining in depth how they scammed me!

    So first of all i wanted to try a different cpc network other than adsense & bing ads, i came across an article which has over 15 networks are are recommended by them.

    Bidvertiser was the first on the list! so i went ahead and signed up with them after reading their information and how they have a "special" team to detect any fraud clicks and prevent them!

    In addition they offered a free $20 once you deposit your first $50, so that encouraged me to go ahead and start the process.
    My whole purpose of choosing them is their "too good to be true" average cost per click for first tier countries which is $0.02

    And i only wanted to target a exclusive offer on a certain network which is a ppc offer which pays me $0.27 per click, so i thought it will be successful for me to run campaigns on that offer.

    i went ahead and made my first campaign, waited a day till i got approved, and in the next day, i started receiving traffic and revenue, i was getting so much traffic from them that the whole offer's budget which i was promoting was spent up, and ofcourse i was getting all that money through bidvertiser.

    i was more encouraged and went ahead and deposited a $100 in bidvertiser since you know i was getting %300+ ROI promoting that exclusive offer.

    The same thing happened the next day and the day after it, i spent $500+ promoting that offer.

    But i've got an email from my network which says this:

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    I was paranoid and thought that my network does not want to pay me and never thought that there was something wrong with the traffic (Money can blind you and that what happened with me) also i went ahead and searched google for scams that happened in my network and i saw alotta of stuff which made me think that they don't want to pay me for real and my traffic is good.

    But i had to make sure that the traffic is good, so i went ahead and started a new campaign from my other network and sent traffic to it but this time i made sure that i'm using a landing page with google analytics linked to it! and guess what?

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    Their traffic comes to the site and only stays for 1 second and leaves!
    I'm so pissed off! they also never reply on skype neither support tickets :

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    i've lost over $500+ and ofcourse i won't get paid by my network because its so obvious that the traffic is trash and botted.

    i don't know if i can submit a dispute to paypal for all the deposits that i have made on their site, if you guys have any useful intel regarding such incidents and if i can make a dispute that would be really appreciated!

    Never Use This Network!! bidvertiser is a SCAM!
     
    LBDecoy, Apr 30, 2017 IP
  2. tomksoft

    tomksoft Well-Known Member

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    I am not from bidvertiser, I do not really work with them at all, but I just wanted to point out some misunderstanding in your post.
    You got unique traffic from Bidvertiser, that is why you got 1 pageview per visitor. I suspect that your landing page(as they usually are) is just 1 page hence there are no multiple pages to which visitors could go.
    So after they see the landing page, they either go to offer page or close the landing page. In both cases they leave your landing page hence you have nearly 100% bounce rate.
    Now your misunderstanding is what "Time on Site" is. Do not worry, vast majority of people do not understand what it is and how it is calculated; Google Analytics does not make it easy to understand.

    So, time on site you see in Google Analytics is... not how much time visitor spent looking at your page. It is just calculated time based on the timestamp of last pageview of a visitor comparing to the timestamp of first pageview of that visitor.
    Now, if you only have 1 pageview per visitor, it is not possible to calculate it, hence Google Analytics shows that as 0 seconds visits(even though the real visit duration should be called "unknown").

    Details: http://help.analyticsedge.com/googleanalytics/misunderstood-metrics-time-on-page-session-duration/
     
    tomksoft, Apr 30, 2017 IP
  3. LBDecoy

    LBDecoy Greenhorn

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    I appreciate your reply & your information, it is indeed that my landing page is only one page, but i do not redirect the visitors to any other pages unless they complete a couple of steps which could take a maximum of 2 minutes before they get redirected to the offers page, also if it was true, i would atleast see %50-%30 of that amount of traffic as "impressions" in my network's stats, but i only saw 2 clicks on the offers!
    Take a note that i already told the visitors in the bidvertiser's ad campaign that they need to do a couple of steps to get what they want, hence i still got clicks to the banner which means "IF" they were real people, they would give these 2 minutes of their time to do these couple of steps.
    It was a giveaway landing page btw.
     
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    LBDecoy, Apr 30, 2017 IP
  4. qwikad.com

    qwikad.com Illustrious Member Affiliate Manager

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    If their traffic was trash and botted your affiliate network would've kicked you out without any warning. Bidvertiser traffic comes from various websites that you choose, plus you choose keywords and desired geo targeting. It's real, human traffic, no doubt about that.

    Personally, I think it has nothing to do with bidvertiser, it has everything to do with your affiliate network. They just don't want that traffic, period. Sorry that you lost $500, but it seems like you're barking up the wrong tree.
     
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  5. LBDecoy

    LBDecoy Greenhorn

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    First of all, they did kick alot of publishers who promoted that exact offer from the network just so you know, but i'm in that network since 2014 and i got a good friendly relationship with the managers and i had good history with them which probably would make them think twice before terminating my account due to my good history with the network, and i did choose the right GEO/Category/Keywords/Devices Whatsoever with Good Headlines & Banners, And trust me i'm not "barking up the wrong tree", The whole reason of this Thread is to open the eyes of advertisers & publishers about these scam artists and their scam traffic, Another reason is because i DO have morals and i wouldn't want such traffic to be sent to my offers specially if the offer is "paid per click"! at the end of the day, who "would" want that kind of money? if everyone would take it, then i'll be the one in a million to not accept it.

    I rest my case.
     
    LBDecoy, Apr 30, 2017 IP
  6. mga

    mga Peon

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    I'm not from bidvertiser and never worked with them, but this seems to be a case of "you get what you pay for".
    If you are paying $0.02 cpc for tier 1 geos, it can't be quality traffic. That means the publisher is getting even less than $0.02 cpc.
    Who do you think are the publishers willing to sell tier 1 traffic at that rate?

    The other option, and this would make bidvertiser scammers, is that they used your link and ran it as pop. This could explain the low CTR to the offer page.
    And this means you actually paid a $20 cpm for pop traffic...
     
    mga, Apr 30, 2017 IP
  7. LBDecoy

    LBDecoy Greenhorn

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    This makes sense
     
    LBDecoy, Apr 30, 2017 IP