BEWARE user "RATCHET" took my MONEY!

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by BusinessCoach, Apr 23, 2009.

  1. #1
    I asked for help in this thread

    http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=1315278

    this is our IM conversation:

    Session Start (webmaster@igrowyourbiz.com:vinny@atomicfps.com): Tue Apr 21 17:35:47 2009
    [Tuesday, April 21, 2009 17:35 PM] : Hi, I'm Ratchet from DP
    [Tuesday, April 21, 2009 17:35 PM] i G R O W your Biz: hi
    [Tuesday, April 21, 2009 17:36 PM] : You asked me to add you about installing mods and customizing vB?
    [Tuesday, April 21, 2009 17:36 PM] i G R O W your Biz: yes ok
    [Tuesday, April 21, 2009 17:38 PM] : Yeah
    [Tuesday, April 21, 2009 17:38 PM] i G R O W your Biz: do you have a forum?
    [Tuesday, April 21, 2009 17:39 PM] : Yes
    [Tuesday, April 21, 2009 17:39 PM] : AtomicFPS
    [Tuesday, April 21, 2009 17:39 PM] : .com
    [Tuesday, April 21, 2009 17:40 PM] i G R O W your Biz: (Link: www.atomicfps.com)www.atomicfps.com
    [Tuesday, April 21, 2009 17:40 PM] i G R O W your Biz: ?
    [Tuesday, April 21, 2009 17:40 PM] : Yes
    [Tuesday, April 21, 2009 17:40 PM] i G R O W your Biz: how long have you been working with vb?
    [Tuesday, April 21, 2009 17:40 PM] : About 1 and a half years now.
    [Tuesday, April 21, 2009 17:44 PM] : Interested?
    [Tuesday, April 21, 2009 17:45 PM] i G R O W your Biz: how much is your charge?
    [Tuesday, April 21, 2009 17:46 PM] : I charge $50 for a whole year. This includes as many mod installations and template tweakings as you want
    [Tuesday, April 21, 2009 17:52 PM] i G R O W your Biz: hmmmm
    [Tuesday, April 21, 2009 17:52 PM] i G R O W your Biz: what country are you in?
    [Tuesday, April 21, 2009 17:52 PM] : Australia
    [Tuesday, April 21, 2009 17:53 PM] i G R O W your Biz: ok i guess thats fine, but i would want to pay you by the month
    [Tuesday, April 21, 2009 17:53 PM] i G R O W your Biz: since we have never worked together before
    [Tuesday, April 21, 2009 17:53 PM] i G R O W your Biz: unless you take payment by escrow or at end of year
    [Tuesday, April 21, 2009 17:53 PM] : Okay, I'll just take it every month into paypal
    [Tuesday, April 21, 2009 17:53 PM] : I'm guessing it will be around 4.50 a month


    WE AGREE TO 4.50 PER MONTH


    [Tuesday, April 21, 2009 17:54 PM] i G R O W your Biz: ok thats fine
    [Tuesday, April 21, 2009 17:54 PM] i G R O W your Biz: now what i need are various mods
    [Tuesday, April 21, 2009 17:54 PM] i G R O W your Biz: and postbit changes
    [Tuesday, April 21, 2009 17:54 PM] i G R O W your Biz: most of it will be up front this first month so i need to pay you more its ok
    [Tuesday, April 21, 2009 17:54 PM] i G R O W your Biz: and then it will be minor mod additions etc as people recommend things
    [Tuesday, April 21, 2009 17:55 PM] : Okay
    [Tuesday, April 21, 2009 17:55 PM] : I gotta go now.

    My paypal is

    Send me what you need done via DP
    [Tuesday, April 21, 2009 17:55 PM] i G R O W your Biz: ok when would we be able to start
    [Tuesday, April 21, 2009 17:55 PM] i G R O W your Biz: i am gonna need to discuss the first mods with you to explain
    [Tuesday, April 21, 2009 17:56 PM] i G R O W your Biz: because i dont know all the exact mods
    [Tuesday, April 21, 2009 17:56 PM] : Probably in 6 hours for me.
    [Tuesday, April 21, 2009 17:56 PM] i G R O W your Biz: ok contact me when your ready please
    [Tuesday, April 21, 2009 17:56 PM] : Sure
    Session Close (vinny@atomicfps.com): Tue Apr 21 18:52:40 2009


    Session Start (webmaster@igrowyourbiz.com:vinny@atomicfps.com): Wed Apr 22 00:07:26 2009
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 00:07 AM] : Hi, I'm back.
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 00:07 AM] i G R O W your Biz: hi
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 00:09 AM] i G R O W your Biz: did i show you the forum?
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 00:10 AM] : Not yet
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 00:10 AM] i G R O W your Biz: (Link: myforum.com
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 00:11 AM] : Okay
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 00:11 AM] : So what do you need done
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 00:12 AM] i G R O W your Biz: just a lot of post bit stuff and mod installations
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 00:12 AM] : So what exaclty in the postbit?
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 00:13 AM] i G R O W your Biz: i thought thats the area that gives user information when someone posts
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 00:13 AM] i G R O W your Biz: like on dp, it shows the avatar, and where they are from etc
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 00:13 AM] i G R O W your Biz: information about the user who posts
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 00:13 AM] : Oh yeah
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 00:13 AM] i G R O W your Biz: but you have to change that stuff to show what info you want it to show
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 00:13 AM] : You want more options
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 00:13 AM] : Sure
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 00:14 AM] i G R O W your Biz: yes
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 00:14 AM] i G R O W your Biz: and more functions
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 00:14 AM] i G R O W your Biz: and more features
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 00:14 AM] i G R O W your Biz: like itrader
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 00:14 AM] i G R O W your Biz: and the postbit show their itrader
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 00:14 AM] i G R O W your Biz: can you do these things?
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 00:14 AM] : okay
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 00:14 AM] : Yeah
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 00:14 AM] : How many do you want installed/
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 00:14 AM] i G R O W your Biz: ok great when can you start?
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 00:15 AM] : Cause I can do one years worth of vB mod installations and postbit changes for just a one-time-fee.
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 00:15 AM] i G R O W your Biz: like i said, a bunch to start, but then later on maybe only a few per month
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 00:15 AM] i G R O W your Biz: yah thats what you said
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 00:15 AM] i G R O W your Biz: its probably gonna be easier for meto pay you by the month
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 00:15 AM] : Okay
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 00:15 AM] i G R O W your Biz: cuz this is the start
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 00:15 AM] i G R O W your Biz: so i am guessing its gonna be more this first month than the rest of the months
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 00:15 AM] i G R O W your Biz: i want several mods added...this is the main building of stuff
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 00:17 AM] : Instead of doing it month by month. Could we do something like 2 month payments etc. etc.
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 00:17 AM] : Untill 12 months are reached
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 00:17 AM] i G R O W your Biz: thats fine

    OK SO WE AGREE 2 months payment that would be $9!


    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 00:17 AM] : Ok
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 00:17 AM] i G R O W your Biz: so first iwould like mods installed related to the postbit
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 00:17 AM] i G R O W your Biz: itrader
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 00:17 AM] : Sure
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 00:17 AM] : Tell me what you need
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 00:18 AM] i G R O W your Biz: there is a mod that shows messengers, and social networks and facebook all that
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 00:18 AM] i G R O W your Biz: i would like that in the post bit
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 00:18 AM] i G R O W your Biz: as well as their avatar
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 00:18 AM] : Got the name of the mod?
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 00:18 AM] i G R O W your Biz: no :(
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 00:18 AM] i G R O W your Biz: i just know they exist
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 00:18 AM] : Ok
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 00:19 AM] i G R O W your Biz: whats your paypal?
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 00:19 AM] : I brb. 5 mins.
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 00:19 AM] : One sec.
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 00:31 AM] : Back
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 00:33 AM] i G R O W your Biz: ok
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 00:38 AM] i G R O W your Biz: so...
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 00:38 AM] : Yeah
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 00:38 AM] : My paypal is
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 00:39 AM] :
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 00:39 AM] i G R O W your Biz: can u work on the postbits now?
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 00:39 AM] : Sure
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 00:40 AM] i G R O W your Biz: ok i sent you money

    I SENT $15!!!!

    Here is screenshot


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    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 00:40 AM] : I'll check
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 00:40 AM] i G R O W your Biz: can you post on DP that you will be doing the work so we can give each other TR
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 00:48 AM] : Sure
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 00:50 AM] i G R O W your Biz: ok so do you understand the first portions i need?
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 00:50 AM] : Okay
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 00:50 AM] : You need iTrader
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 00:50 AM] : And something to do with Digg
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 00:50 AM] i G R O W your Biz: well not just digg, but facebook, im etc
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 00:50 AM] i G R O W your Biz: it shows under their name
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 00:51 AM] i G R O W your Biz: should be profile picture
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 00:51 AM] i G R O W your Biz: then under that what they are a part of
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 00:51 AM] : Well
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 00:51 AM] i G R O W your Biz: like twitter, facebook
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 00:51 AM] : I'll search for it on vBulletin.org
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 00:52 AM] i G R O W your Biz: (Link: http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/show...w.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=204694
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 00:52 AM] : Ok
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 00:52 AM] : I will need the following info
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 00:52 AM] : FTP Username:
    FTP Password:
    Admin Account:
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 00:52 AM] i G R O W your Biz: ftp.myforum.com
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 00:52 AM] i G R O W your Biz: login
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 00:53 AM] i G R O W your Biz: password
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 00:53 AM] i G R O W your Biz: thats ftp
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 00:54 AM] : ok
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 00:55 AM] : Long failed
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 00:55 AM] : login failed
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 00:55 AM] : retype it please
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 00:56 AM] i G R O W your Biz: which part?
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 00:56 AM] i G R O W your Biz: works for me
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 00:57 AM] : Username: user
    Password: pw
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 00:57 AM] : right?
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 00:57 AM] i G R O W your Biz: yes
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 00:58 AM] : Im in
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 00:59 AM] i G R O W your Biz: ok
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 01:00 AM] : I'll get to work
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 01:12 AM] : I need an admin account
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 01:12 AM] i G R O W your Biz: olk register please
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 01:12 AM] : kk
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 01:13 AM] : Done
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 01:14 AM] i G R O W your Biz: ok
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 01:22 AM] : Does your server have php5?
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 01:23 AM] i G R O W your Biz: yes
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 01:23 AM] i G R O W your Biz: why?
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 01:23 AM] : okay
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 01:23 AM] : for a mod
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 01:23 AM] i G R O W your Biz: yah i am running latest 3.8.2 of vbulletin
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 01:23 AM] : okay
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 01:28 AM] : Added vBtwitter
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 01:36 AM] i G R O W your Biz: where do i put my twitter info?
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 01:37 AM] : User CP > Edit Options
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 01:37 AM] i G R O W your Biz: man i never would have found that there
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 01:37 AM] : Yeah, its kinda stupid. How they programmed it
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 01:38 AM] : You should make an announcment and sticky it
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 01:38 AM] i G R O W your Biz: hmmmm
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 01:38 AM] i G R O W your Biz: so wait
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 01:38 AM] i G R O W your Biz: it just allows me to click "tweet this"????
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 01:38 AM] i G R O W your Biz: so i can tweet a post
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 01:38 AM] i G R O W your Biz: hmmmm
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 01:38 AM] i G R O W your Biz: ok
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 01:38 AM] i G R O W your Biz: lol
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 01:38 AM] : Yes
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 01:38 AM] i G R O W your Biz: how uninteresting
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 01:38 AM] i G R O W your Biz: i hope someone likes it
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 01:38 AM] i G R O W your Biz: lol
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 01:38 AM] : Yea rofl
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 01:38 AM] : Its a bit stupid
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 01:38 AM] : I'm working on finding iTrader now
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 01:38 AM] i G R O W your Biz: yah well, that what i say we will be doing alot of this back and forth the next month
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 01:39 AM] i G R O W your Biz: ok when your done with iTrad
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 01:39 AM] i G R O W your Biz: can you put the profile picture on top of my name in the post bit....or if its too big
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 01:39 AM] i G R O W your Biz: all the way to the left
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 01:40 AM] : Hmm
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 01:40 AM] : I'll see what I can do with that
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 01:40 AM] : It depends with the coding of the skin
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 01:40 AM] : There's a chance it could bug up the skin
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 01:40 AM] i G R O W your Biz: ok put to left then
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 01:41 AM] : Yeah, I'll have to check the coding for it.
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 01:41 AM] : I actually know the designer of your skin
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 01:41 AM] : So i can confirm with her :p
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 01:41 AM] i G R O W your Biz: cool
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 01:41 AM] i G R O W your Biz: can you make changes to it also???
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 01:41 AM] : Sure
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 01:41 AM] : What do you need?
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 01:42 AM] i G R O W your Biz: this skin was all red
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 01:42 AM] i G R O W your Biz: i changed it blue/grey from red/black
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 01:42 AM] i G R O W your Biz: (why its called redbox)
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 01:42 AM] i G R O W your Biz: i want rounded courners
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 01:42 AM] i G R O W your Biz: and i want the columns at the bottom to be fixed width
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 01:42 AM] : rounded corners has nothing to do with the postbit. it requires css
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 01:42 AM] : I'll have to contact the skin designer and see what she says about it
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 01:43 AM] : And you want it from fluid to fixed?
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 01:44 AM] i G R O W your Biz: at the bottom
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 01:44 AM] i G R O W your Biz: the top can stay fluid
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 01:44 AM] i G R O W your Biz: just the forums
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 01:44 AM] : kk
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 01:44 AM] i G R O W your Biz: oh yeah, and the tables to have space between them
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 01:44 AM] i G R O W your Biz: look at the tables on the left
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 01:44 AM] i G R O W your Biz: they have a space
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 01:44 AM] i G R O W your Biz: but on the right, they touch
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 01:44 AM] i G R O W your Biz: i want spacees
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 01:44 AM] i G R O W your Biz: and then the colums to be fixed, but the top to stay fluid
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 01:45 AM] : ok

    SUDDENLY I DON"T HEAR FROM HIM

    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 02:21 AM] i G R O W your Biz: still there?
    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 02:25 AM] *** One or more messages may have been undeliverable. Try closing and reopening this window.

    I TRY AGAIN

    [Wednesday, April 22, 2009 02:25 AM] i G R O W your Biz: hello????
    Session Close (vinny@atomicfps.com): Wed Apr 22 02:25:20 2009
     
    BusinessCoach, Apr 23, 2009 IP
  2. BusinessCoach

    BusinessCoach Well-Known Member

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    FINALLY I PM HIM and here is our PM CONVOS:

    Yesterday, 3:12 am
    BusinessCoach
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    Re: vBulletin Modifications

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    I sent you THREE TIMES as much money as we agreed in good faith.

    you now have 12 hours to refund my money, or I am going to dispute with paypal as FRAUD

    as well as give you negative itrader

    AND make a post telling everyone here on DP about it.


    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ratchet
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by BusinessCoach
    but you didnt tell me you had to go.

    also there is other stuff besides the width

    when will you be back to work...if you don't have time for this, let me know

    you can refund my money and I can get someone else.

    thanks


    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ratchet
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by BusinessCoach
    where did you go????



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ratchet
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by BusinessCoach
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ratchet
    Hi, I'm good at customizing and modifying vBulletin.

    For a year, I'll only charge $50 which will include unlimited updates/changes.

    Thanks,

    Please reply.

    - Ratchet

    IM me

    Add on my MSN,


    I had to go mate.

    I sent an email to the designer asking about the fixed width and avatars.


    It takes time and testing to do stuff with the template edits. Be patient.

    Can you just list what you want I'll get to work asap..


    so he put in ONE mod (a really simple one, took 3 minutes), and said "he was gonna email the template owner for help"...of course he never did any more work.

    He worn't return my private messages, and I am now in a dispute with him in paypal.

    Thats the story..my advice....save your time and your money

    RATCHET WON"T DO THE WORK!
     
    BusinessCoach, Apr 23, 2009 IP