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Beware of sponsoring WP themes

Discussion in 'Link Development' started by xtremenitro911, May 7, 2009.

  1. seokingdom07

    seokingdom07 Banned

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    #21
    I am really thankful for such a real info...thanx to DP members contributed to this thread.
    SEMrush
     
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  2. digitalextrememediagroup

    digitalextrememediagroup Peon

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    #22
    Their is no substitution for building your own links. No one will put pride into your site like the owner. Paid links are trouble all the way around.
     
  3. Crazihos

    Crazihos Greenhorn

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    #23
    The problem with this technique is that each site that has your link will have the other sponsered links in it also.

    If google see's 20 sites with your link on and each of those sites also links back to site1 , site2, and site3 who have also sponsered the theme it will de-value the links as its obviously unnatural.

    If you are going to sponser i guess taking the whole theme would make sense, even better just one HP link as sitewide can look a bit dodgy too.
     
    Crazihos, May 19, 2009 IP
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    darkdrgn2k Active Member

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    #24
    Why are scam pharmacies always the center of attention :(

    Legit pharmacies just cant get a break!
     
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    w3bmaster Notable Member

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    #25
    As long as you don't link to the pharmacy is ok don't worry ..
     
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    geester1 Well-Known Member

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    #26
    When I create and sell themes, I always promise NOT TO add bad neighbours, such as drug, porn or gambling sites, I guess that's why my last 2 themes on DP didnt sell!

    However, I found some one who did buy them and paid 3 x the price I had them on DP for.

    Link and theme sales on DP are only after 1 thing, your money and this is why you must always double check where your link is going even in blogs, as it could be in a bad neighbourhood there too.
     
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    hard2kill Active Member

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    #27
    Hello. I've been making wordpress themes for a long time now, sold a lot of themes, saw what people sponsor and here's my view about this issue. These things happen when sponsors don't look enough what are they sponsoring.

    I'll show you what are some noobs doing and getting 1000$+ a month.

    Auto Wordpress Theme Generator: DEMO

    Please look at the demo carefully. What you see is that with a click of a button people create wordpress themes, and when they change the header image they also change the niche of their "theme". These themes are nothing but a little bit styled default theme.

    If you are wondering who uses these themes, i'll tell you. Those are mostly black hatters, spammers, auto bloggers etc. They use these themes just because they are so easy to setup and earn some money.

    To ensure your self you will get only quality backlinks you should sponsor some more complex themes. There are quite a few people here on DP that make those themes. Check some of my opened threads to see how do they look, or HPA's, dpsubi1's, wpdesigner's...i can't remember anyone else atm but there is more for sure :)

    These themes are not so easy to setup, that's why only serious people use those themes and build great websites. For example, they need to post two thumbnails with different size for every post they make. Only professional bloggers will do that - that's how you get top notch backlinks!

    So my advice is, look carefully what are you sponsoring and think well who might use that theme. I'm sure this way you'll get just good backlinks.

    Cheers!
     
    hard2kill, May 20, 2009 IP
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    ceptea Banned

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    #28
    sponsoring theme really give huge backlinks, but it can be bad neighborhood...
     
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  9. xtremenitro911

    xtremenitro911 Banned

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    #29

    Good points. Thanks for adding.

    Everyone makes good points. I also knew that theme creators would also have something to say about this. lol
    You do bring up some good points, however, you mentioned only good themes that are harder to use get better sites. This is not always true, most of the time yes, but I just built a site and did not notice the footer until it was done, my mistake even after posting this (lesson learned), but it was a nice complicated theme and took me a while to finish. After I was done I noticed casino links in the footer. That sucks really bad cause I put a lot of work into it and don't want to rebuild it. So now I have been trying to contact the creator of the theme and ask how much to remove but get no answers.


    Bottom line is if your going to use these themes check them first!! I can't believe I made the mistake even after posting this thread. It was a good, complicated theme from a larger more popular theme builder and still got crappy links.
    I know everybody needs to make money but people selling these should not link to these bad neighborhoods. I mean, people are not going to use your theme if it links to these places.

    If your going to buy these footer links, in my opinion and from what I have heard google is on to it so there worthless, make sure you ask the creator if they will be linking to any bad neighborhoods.

    Hope all this helps some people out. It's been a long thread and many people posted there opinion so thank you all.
     
    xtremenitro911, May 20, 2009 IP
  10. hard2kill

    hard2kill Active Member

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    #30
    No the problem is this. If you get backlinks from casino/adult/warez sites that is bad. But if you have 1-5 links TO that kind of sites it won't do anything bad. Digital point is full of these links, facebook is full of those links, etc etc. and google didn't do anything to them. I have two sites with 3 warez links in blog roll for 2 years but i'm still ranked high on google and never had a problem.

    I strongly belive having few links to non family friendly sites can't do anything bad...there are so much examples and none that can prove the oposite ;)

    I'm mostly angry on these artisteer guys that earn a lot of money in 10 minutes, and lead their sponsors to disaster while some talanted wp theme designers work 48h+ on one quality theme and get nothing...

    Regards.
     
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    xtremenitro911 Banned

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    #31
    I think you may have that backwords.

    "If you get backlinks from casino/adult/warez sites that is bad"
    Google can not discredit you for that cause people would just buy a bunch of bad links for there competitors.

    "But if you have 1-5 links TO that kind of sites it won't do anything bad."

    And definitely wrong about linking to bad sites. Linking to these site is not good.
    http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?answer=35769#design"# Don't participate in link schemes designed to increase your site's ranking or PageRank. In particular, avoid links to web spammers or "bad neighborhoods" on the web, as your own ranking may be affected adversely by those links."


    "I'm mostly angry on these artisteer guys that earn a lot of money in 10 minutes, and lead their sponsors to disaster while some talanted wp theme designers work 48h+ on one quality theme and get nothing..."

    That I completely understand.


     
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    hard2kill Active Member

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    #32
    ""If you get backlinks from casino/adult/warez sites that is bad"
    Google can not discredit you for that cause people would just buy a bunch of bad links for there competitors."


    I think in that case google will count the good vs. bad links to a site.

    "And definitely wrong about linking to bad sites. Linking to these site is not good.
    http://www.google.com/support/webmas...r=35769#design"# Don't participate in link schemes designed to increase your site's ranking or PageRank. In particular, avoid links to web spammers or "bad neighborhoods" on the web, as your own ranking may be affected adversely by those links.""


    Yes web spammers :) But that doesn't mean you can't have links to casino or related sites...you think spammers sponsor themes? =D

    Again i say, there is thousands of examples it doesn't affect and on the other hand there are none to prove the oposite ;)
     
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  13. xtremenitro911

    xtremenitro911 Banned

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    #33
    Well, I respect your opinion but from what I have read you should not link to gambling, adult or pharmacy.

    That was quoted from Google, they say spammers yes but also say do not link to bad neighborhoods.
     
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    #34
    I talked with a lot of experts about that sentence and most of them agreed when google says "bad neighborhoods" they think link directories that ask reciprocal link...that doesn't mean directories that don't ask that are good :D

    The reason i trust this theory is that i never saw some1 had anyproblems for having gambling links, inlcuding my self. However, I respect your opinion too...

    EDIT: this site talks about those links: LINK

    I think this is not offtopic cause we discuss what's in footer of wp themes.
     
    hard2kill, May 20, 2009 IP
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    dogtraining-guides.com Well-Known Member

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    #35
    well, here is my case study:

    One domain that I have never submited to directories, not article dirs.
    The only link building I have ever done is sponsor 10 wordpress themes.
    I rank on page 1 for 3 of the anchor text I use.

    The other side of the story:
    If I want to screw my competition, I would find 20 pharma/drugs/porn/chinese...bs themes, sponsor using my competition's anchor text and url and...

    What is the truth? Ask the higher powers(eg google, matt cutts...)

    Not a clue
     
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    hard2kill Active Member

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    Well you have to do a lot more then that, that's just the part of it hahaha...and the second part is very hardly done :D ...I'm not even sure links from pharma/drugs/porn/chinese sites can do bad as long as they are not link farms or spammers ;)
     
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    xtremenitro911 Banned

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    #37
    ya linking to those sites is not good. It says it on the page I linked to above.
     
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    xtremenitro911 Banned

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    #38
    well google wants relevant links so if your site is related it will do you some good but if not it won't. i have been doing a lot of reading since the first time you posted and I'm finding a lot of people saying not to link to gambling,adult or pharmacy related sites.

    IDK, I guess only Google knows. Lol :)
     
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    Yes...i read those discussions for few years :D but i call all those - empty stories :/ You are right..only google knows, but i'll stick to the fact nobody was penalised for having ambling,adult, pharmacy etc. links on their sites as long as it is at least a little bit related :)
     
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    engedi05 Well-Known Member

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    #40
    that is really a very bad experience for you of course. thanks for the advice.
     
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