Beware of New Clients - They will RIP you and Get their Work Done

Hello All...

DP is now filling with new faces and these new faces are no good - since they talk good before work and after work they give you sh*t and demand for refund - even if their work is completed within target.

I have had similar experience with a new client - whose work was completed before time - to the amount of money which was given. But now he is saying that we did no work and all the work was done by him.... (this was the seo work)

I ask you all - do you think it is fair to say or do - work on your own when you have already given that work to someone - and also the deadline is not crossed.????

Also - if you sub-contracted seo work to someone else then saying you better know seo and do your work on your own - dont you need to inform???

If you were so good at it... you would have not sub-contracted the work - you must have hired someone and given him the seo task... isn't it!!!

I will post screenshots too because i have had enough from this client - and being the member of DP for so long - i do think my responsibility is to protect other members from these kind of cheap people....

Contribute!!

 

why would you deal with new faces in the first place?

 

We've all been a new client once, not everone is bad.

 

See business is business - we all have to cater clients but the reason i am pointing is because these things are increasing - so there should be some parameter to judge the person - not always feedback helps (itrader) i too have negative itrader which were spammers they gave me...

I do think that judging should be on the green-dots (reps) that is the perfect parameter

What do you think!

 

Anyways, thanks for tellong me about the frauds, now i will beware from it.

 

I hope you kept good records of all the work you did for them and since it's online, screenshots. Send them another email requesting payment and if they absolutely refuse to pay you, very politely let them know that you will be contacting their IP, host, the FTC and may possibly hear from your lawyer if they continue to refuse to pay.

 

I think that nothing is perfect. But at the same time every person is different. Try to establish long term business relations with your old clients. So, you will have no time to deal with the new faces.

 

I cannot believe how disgusting this dude is. You should all stay away from this guy, I am dead serious! I am the client in question and I'll show you exactly what has happened with this infogle "seo expert".

This is the second time that he bashes me in public and demonstrating how bad I am without specifically naming me. Well, I'll give you the balls since there's no turning back from now on because now it's my turn to bash you around.

Apart from his "joined in 2006" sign at the right, he's a joke as far as SEO is concerned. He got real mad when I told him that a couple of days ago and I'm 99% sure it's why he posted this nonsense trying to make himself look like a victim.

Anyway, I gave him a very simple task. It goes like this: "Rank this page for that term". Simple right? He got optimized content, exact .org domain name, exact title tag and no real competition. And of course, a 50% down payment. I will not reveal any specific amounts of money so I can save him his reputation (if it can be saved at all) because frankly, you would laugh if I said the exact amount. Go figure...

So, he accepted the job, gave a deadline and now he's allegedly "working". After all the crap that I had to go through with him (I'll get to that later), here's what he gives me to look at:

1. A bunch of worthless "bookmark submissions" as he calls them. Zero of them indexed so far in yahoo site explorer.
2. A bunch of "directory submissions". ZERO INDEXED IN YAHOO SITE EXPLORER.
3. A bunch of "mixed backlinks" and "blog comments". I checked the URLs, there is only one nofollow backlink on a totally unrelated SPAM page. WTF?

I knew I was wasting my time even before he sent his "legendary report" because I checked a couple of times before to see what kind of links he got indexed, and everytime I noticed a BIG ZERO. Nice!

After 3 weeks, there are no links indexed. I built more than 5000 in the meantime (a couple of site-wides etc.) and outsourced some minor stuff to a user "Jihoy" from here. I am sorry you are mentioned here in this context Alex, I just want to let people know that you are a 100% reliable guy and I made a mistake for not hiring you instead.

Oh yeah, he also tried to INJECT HIS OWN GOOGLE ANALYTICS CODE into my page and spy on me. He thought I was some kind of a sucker and would not notice that. There's proof for everything, if he wants to completely sink down, I'll post it.

So basically, he has no links that influence my rankings and he claims that he is responsible for any improvements. I literally needed to draw to him that he DOESN'T KNOW SHIT ABOUT SEO AND SHOULDN'T OFFER HIS SERVICES TO ANYONE. Then, a couple of more times I needed to explain to him why his "services" hasn't done anything for me. I am totally sure that he understands that, but he simply uses my help against me, EVEN THOUGH I SAID IT WILL BE CREDITED TO HIM ONLY IF HE CAN FINISH THE JOB WITHOUT ANY BULLSHIT ANYMORE.

Apparently, he cannot finish the job and it's obvious both to him and to me.

If you want me to post the messages, I'll post them and you can decide who messed up everything. First, he started the work on April 27th (if I remember correctly) and should have started on April 23. He said "my bad" and moved on. I said ok, no problem.

Then, when I started to pressure him to see what he's done, he was "out of town" for a week but "the work was ON" Really? Interesting...

After a couple of more days or even a week or two (I don't remember the exact dates but I can look it up if you want me to), he says "sending you the report today". And he doesn't. In fact, a week passes by and no sign from infogle. But he still browses the forums, offers SEO services to other members and talks about reports and stuff, while I'm thinking "who do you think you are fucking with?". That's when I warned one member not to buy anything from him. He can show up here and confirm this.

Now seriously, I tried to solve all these problems with this guy, but it's impossible since he wants to get paid for nothing. I don't mind letting him have the money, I'd gave it to him as a gift if he asked politely but he hasn't. In fact, he lied to me many times, delivered nothing, and now started to get out of control by bashing me in public for the second time. This is hilarious, I told him that many times. He gets pissed and sends entire messages in upper case. I have a feeling that some crazy dude is yelling at me all the time and there's nothing you could do about it. He's an unstable guy.

Bottom line is. Hire infogle at your own risk. Just check his website and see for yourself. He's not serious. He's not professional. He'll take your money, do nothing (effectively) and then bash you in public after you've had enough. That's how he works and I don't care if he has a million positive itraders, I checked a lot of them and I'm not sure if he ever did any SEO work around here.

I worked with a couple of guys from here and while some of them did take the money and run, this is the first time that someone has taken the money, delivered nothing and made me look like a fool. Cool!

Oh yeah, he also likes to contradict himself quite a lot. Check his blog and lookup the "can you rank with one page" post. That's me he's ratting about there. Isn't it odd to say something is impossible and then claim repeatedly how "I've almost done it!". This is a strange dude... STAY AWAY FROM HIM!

And by the way, I told him before he started to bullshit me with my own work, that he can stop and keep the money, there's no issue about it. But no, he can do it, he'll surely do it and then sent a total BS "report" that immediately showed me whom I'm dealing with. I should have laid him off when he first lied to me (a couple of times to buy more time) but I was an idiot for trusting the "joined in 2006" line and ignored his negative traders telling to myself "well, he has more positive ones after all".

I don't want anyone to ban him from this forum, hell I don't even want my money returned, I just want a sincere apology for all the crap that he gave me and he's giving me right now. I'm sick of it all and just want to move on.

I'm sorry Ajeet (infogle), but I'm the wrong guy to fuck with. I told you I never crossed anyone in my life and will never let anyone cross me as well. Seems like you missed that. Too bad...

 

on the other hand the forum is full of so called "experts" that ofer crap services for money and usually they don't even complet that work ...

 

Not only he delivered crap services and no results, he kept the money and thought it was smart enough to bitch about me in public. For the second time!

He should have just been quiet, straighten things out with me and keep the money. I'd have no problems with that.

I said to him many times PLEASE DO NOT WASTE MY TIME, MONEY IS NOT AN ISSUE HERE (it's a funny amount really). But then I intentionally threatened him with a refund recently when I got really fed up and that's what got him upset. I did that to make him actually work for a change and I got this. Hilarious!

 

I said you you have directly taken a fight with me... i will post screenshots now... and tell about you... first of all i did not used your name... your feel it was you... because you were wrong... you are real bad person at heart and your replies shows that only...

But you seems like dont want to end this...

i have no problem to take this further to the Final level...

 

Please buddy i have spent years on this forum and have no red marks under my name...! for all these years...!

 

Well, this kinda thread makes me think whom to trust and whom not? while dealing with people based on their iTraders. this is not the only case, i have been in a similar situation where they guy i was dealing with have some decent number of positive iTraders and still he pissed me off in the end by delivering crap stuff and that was not what i told him to do for me. i think people are taking advantage of their "Join Date: " to rip others in forums such as this where 100's of trades takes place daily. to cut the long story short, never trust anyone based on iTraders or his/her Join Date because if you do then you might end in a thread like this and we should thank "Aleksandar" for taking his time to write such a detailed review about the OP which indeed seems true to me. +rep added

 

Be my guest... Just don't blame me when your reputation goes out the window. You can stop this nonsense at any time and finish the job you were paid to do but if you prefer to act childishly, I'll have to show you where you belong.

Don't give me that crap that I'm bad. You know nothing about me. I've helped a lot of people in my life. I told you numerous times you'll get more work than you can handle and you still played around. I also wanted to send you a bonus payment when you would first show me what you've done but you haven't done anything back then and couldn't accept it becase there was nothing to show. So please stop making me the bad guy, I'm sick of it! I told you, all I want from you is an apology and you can move on. Pride? I don't care...

Thanks! He really has no SEO knowledge at all. He should use the money I gave him and buy some SEO books immediately. Or self improvement perhaps... I told him many times I have no time for his bullshit, I'll take an hour or two and post all messages myself. Hell, I'll even let a moderator enter my account and see for himself.

Usually, when someone gets scammed, it goes like this:

Person A sends money to Person B and asks for something to be done. Person B does that and Person A reverses the payment without even notifying person B. In my case, I paid, I got nothing, I did it myself and I'm the bad guy in the end. Incredible! His only argument is "I have a couple of more days!". Well I don't give a damn how much you have, the way that you work is pure nonsense. I just cannot understand how he cannot get this through his head. His work sucks and he shouldn't offer SEO services to anyone. I let him keep the damn money and he still isn't satisfied. Incredible...

 

Are you his friend? How can you say that he is saying correct? Funny side!

Its time now to post screenshots - and with all respect i have never used his name in my thread - he has a wrong way and was tracking my threads - and saw this and posted here - this shows - who is right and who is not. Think with broad mind...! before giving reps and saying someone bad!

 

Nope, you signed most of your messages with your name. I told you not to bend things. I don't give a damn about your threads and posts. Also, I never ever seen SSC around here before, you're lying again.

You can stop this nonsense anytime you want. Apologize to me, and I'm totally fine with this thread being removed. I told you a million times now, quit wasting my time with your bullshit!


I'm out, everybody else have a great time while it lasts. If it gets really out of control as far as accusations towards me are concerned, I'll get back and post everything. From the first to the last message.

 

I have never ever said you anything even in this thread - it was you who started posting against me... not me!

So, you were chasing me! not me!

you told me that i am wrong and you are right! not me!

You are wasting your time to post in this thread! i have not said you to do!

Dont threaten me that you will post screenshots from beginning to end - this is just started - and you were the first one and take my words i will be the last to finish all this...!

apologize to you... for what!!! are you my master! i am your servant... ha ha ha

i am due to let people know the truth and i will let you know...

and kindly this is my thread - let me talk to people - and you do something productive rather saying people bad! - because again it was you who started saying me bad - not me!

 

You are welcome, i am just trying to be on the right side and with all that explanation so far i can say that you must be right and he must have misunderstood you.

No, i am not his friend and also i am not your enemy as i have said earlier after reading all the replies in this post it seems like Aleksandar's points are much strong and you must have misunderstood the whole thing.

he is right, i don't really take part in these kinda threads but after reading Aleksandar's post i think i should take part and take his side because he is the one who still seems genuine to me.

 

Are you crazy? Did I started this shit about myself? Isn't it obvious that you were referring to me in your first post? And on your blog? WTF do you think I'm gonna do? Stand still while you vent out on me and then get back to me like everything is fine?

Listen man, I don't need two wifes. I'm already maried with kids. Go play with someone else.

Can I browse the forums without being accused that I am following someone? General chat is general chat. I read it because I need a break from guys like you.

Whatever man...

Oh yeah, that's what you would like me to do right? Do not appear around here while you trash my name?

Whoa? Watcha gonna do? Bore me to death? Shut up...

You don't get it do you? You can't pull this crap on someone (including me) and expect no crap coming back your way.

Sure, I'm already in my photographer mood. Although I don't understand what do you mean by "letting me know"? You don't have to let me know anything, I've seen enough from you.

Listen, I feel sorry for you. You can talk to anyone you want, as long as it's not about me. If it's about me, expect a reply.