Best way to buy a squatted domain ?

Discussion in 'Domain Names' started by noddy10, May 28, 2009.

  1. #1
    Hi - there's a domain name that i'd be interesting in buying if the price wasn't ridiculous. it's a single word .com domain so it wouldn't be worth peanuts but it's a word that has a particular meaning and most people wouldn't know what it meant.

    if i browse to that domain name it's showing one of those stupid templates with the bunch of squares on the left and the meaningless search links on the right. there's no link that says "contact here if you want to buy this domain"

    i don't want to connect to some dodgy domain broker. where do i go from here ? thanks..
     
    noddy10, May 28, 2009 IP
  2. csi

    csi Guest

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    #2
    Do a whois on the domain name, see if you can find an email and contact them.
     
    csi, May 28, 2009 IP
  3. Bill_Stanbrook

    Bill_Stanbrook Well-Known Member

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    If there's no email in the whois report that you can use to contact them directly, then try contacting the domain registrar that the domain is registered with, and see if they'll pass on a message to the domain owner for you.
     
    Bill_Stanbrook, May 28, 2009 IP
  4. Social.Network

    Social.Network Member

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    I approached a couple of squatters and all wanted $,$$$+ for the domains. I moved on, because the domains are not worth that much to me. I was able to register two domains on backorder. It took me a couple years, but the squatters eventually dropped the domains. Good luck.
     
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  5. htmlindex

    htmlindex Prominent Member

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    You can still contact the owners through those Parking pages, the email will still go to them. Or do a Whois search & contact them directly from that.
     
    htmlindex, May 29, 2009 IP
  6. kohashi

    kohashi Well-Known Member

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    Why are these people being called squatters? Unless they are infringing your trademark you're just some jackass who wants their property and won't pay for it. Let's put things into perspective.
     
    kohashi, May 30, 2009 IP
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    htmlindex Prominent Member

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    That's what the uninformed who know nothing about the domaining industry call, the correct term is Domainer, NOT squatter.
     
    htmlindex, May 30, 2009 IP
  8. traian13

    traian13 Peon

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    thanks htmlindex

    "The official term cybersquatting only applies to trademark infringement using domain names. Domainers are legitimate domain owners and avoid trademark issues" - go to wikipedia and search "domainer"
     
    traian13, May 31, 2009 IP
  9. kohashi

    kohashi Well-Known Member

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    im edumacating ;)
     
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  10. mentos

    mentos Prominent Member

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    Actually its very easy to find the owner of the domain name.
    You can search the owner contact details at the whois.
     
    mentos, Jun 1, 2009 IP
  11. mike_normal

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    I agree with this too :)
     
    mike_normal, Jun 2, 2009 IP
  12. le0nard

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    If their whois info is public, and you can't contact them in any way shape or form you can contact the registrar, and tell them that their info is not updated. If the registrar can't get in touch with them, they can legally take it and put it back on the market.

    I've obtained some nice domains this way, its a bit on the asshole side, but hey people get all kinds of warnings to keep their info up to date.
     
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  13. wuttaday

    wuttaday Peon

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    Hi. I just couldn't help but to post this to you. PLLEAAAASSSSEEEE! Never, ever, ever refer to a "real" domainer as a "squatter" (ewwwww!) Squatters are ACTUALLY those who INTENTIONALLY (legally-speaking) register a domain name with the INTENT to "extort" a trademark owner by CONTACTING that trademark owner with a monetary offer to sell them (and specifically "them" - for the specific purpose of making $ on what legally belongs to them [TM]) a domain name that actually legally competes & or is "confusingly similar" to their legal rights/holdings. I have held over 7500 domain names for over 11 years, and have had only 2 Cease & Desist orders served to me. One was let go (in favor of me) because I held a generic, dictionary term & they realized that they were in error to try to take it away from me. In fact, they thanked me because I could have sued them for millions of dollars & chose not to. The other was an issue w/ Mr. Donald J. Trump himself, which he held no trademark to the term & I just messed w/ his attorneys for over 3 months to piss him off! HeHeHe!
    So, Trump actually "reverse domain name hijacked" my domain name,; therefore, he actually was the only party to do something illegal! LOL! He's a jerk.
    If anyone ever needs to know the real deal regarding "cybersquatting" or trademarks with regard to domain names, don't hesitate to PM me! I doubt that many know more that I do about it. I've been in this racket for over 11 years (as well as having legal expertise in construction/real estate & about 7 other areas of [dog-eat-dog] business!)
    Thanks for letting me vent!
    Please don't ever use that term to refer to this line of business. Thanks!
    Peace OUT ~
    BTW -
    Don't be intimidated by making any offer at all for any domain - ESPECIALLY if when you visit their site, there's no development. Some people have their head in the clouds about their "precious" domain names. Be imaginative & think hard about your objectives for your project & I'm positive you will come up with a usable alternative for the expensive domain name if you're serious about your objective. Then, once you are making the bucks, make a reasonable offer for it again & I'm sure they'll see the light!
    Keep positive!
     
    wuttaday, Jun 11, 2009 IP
  14. rogerrnicholas

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    I can't directly answer your question, but are you worried that a direct approach will tip off the squatter about how important the domain name is to the buyer?

    How about you or somebody try to buy it privately instead of via the company? Maybe using a third party will also make then think it's valuable. Maybe file an official claim for arbitration at the same time (I believe it's easy to do).
     
    rogerrnicholas, Jun 12, 2009 IP
  15. paradigmad

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    The thing about people who own parked domains think there domain is worth $$$$ when its only worth $. But a domain is only worth what a person is willing to pay for it.

    They always ask $$$$ because what if on the odd chance the person bites. They just hit payday.
     
    paradigmad, Jun 12, 2009 IP
  16. wuttaday

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    Yea. That's exactly it, man! But I actually HAVE hit pay-dirt - several times. I know about domaining & business/advertising/marketing in general. Most people don't. So I think they should go to Las Vegas or Atlantic City & they will have more of a chance of winning the jackpot than to think they're gonna find a goldmine in this biz. It's unlikely. There are very few good domains available that are worth anything at all. Mine are. But I just don't have the (human) time to keep up with the ever-changing (seems like daily) domain market. I've ALWAYS said that ANYTHING only has the value of whatever someone is willing to pay for it at any given time. People are fickle. Things are things. There's always an alternative. I've been fortunate in this biz. But, I've paid my dues also! LOL
     
    wuttaday, Jun 12, 2009 IP