Best strategy buying 1000-5000 domains

Discussion in 'Domain Names' started by dotbeyond.com, Jan 11, 2007.

  1. #1
    what would be the "best" place to buy large amount of domains?

    Criterias:
    - price (affiliate programs, coupons, discounts etc).
    Since i am doing business with a friend it totally makes sense to pay attention to those things. For example GoDaddy pays 20% commission through CJ

    - management (how easy/difficult to change bulk settings);

    - Flexibility (how easy to sell domains , if needed)

    thanks!
     
    dotbeyond.com, Jan 11, 2007 IP
  2. youngblood

    youngblood Peon

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    WTF 5000 domains! are you planning to take over the internet by yourself? or is this for adsense landing pages :)

    Sorry I have no good suggestions :-(
     
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  3. dnk

    dnk Well-Known Member

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    Become a registrar with ICANN , you will get the lowest prices.
     
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  4. Austars

    Austars Active Member

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    Do you know how to do that?
     
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    tobycoke Well-Known Member

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    #5
    Fabulous.com and Moniker.com specialize in large portfolios. I doubt that the 20% CJ commission would last long if Godaddy saw you pumping 5,000 of your own domains thru it.
     
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  6. dnk

    dnk Well-Known Member

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    No, I don't, contact ICANN
     
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  7. mediology

    mediology Well-Known Member

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    #7
    its a few 100k to become a registrar at the very least.

    Contact moniker and you will get a lower price for that quantity.

    Also it depends on the extension as well. Can get infos cheap at a ton of places but then you may end up with a crappy registrar.
     
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    ivnj Banned

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  9. kohashi

    kohashi Well-Known Member

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    If you actually plan to register 5k names contact some registrars you feel meet your criteria and they should be willing to negotiate, at that volume you have a lot of power to get them to go down on their front page price. Do your research though, make a good choice in your registrar.
     
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  11. domnom

    domnom Peon

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    #11
    This is a joke, right ?

    You will get the highest prices if you do that
    $6.25 not including icann yearly fees, insurance fees, servers and maintenance fees and others

    Sure you can deal with a registrar for a slight better price than normal retailer but the low prices/offers of 5.99 or similar are for low volume customers

    What will be their profit if you don't buy any additional services?

    It is better for a registrar to have 5000 customers with 1 domain each than 1 with 5000 domains. The 10% of the 5000 customers will buy for example web hosting which will be the profit for the registrar
     
    domnom, Jan 12, 2007 IP
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  13. domnom

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    Also a word of advice, having 5000 names in random doesn't mean you will make profit

    Portfolios are build steadily and carefully

    Registering every combination you find doesn't put you in a better position than others

    Hold you money and buy a premium name
    I've seen 1-2K portfolio to collapse and dropped for re-registration because they were all crap names without any parking traffic or anything

    With high volume portfolios usually the owners don't have time and will to develop them so they rely on the domain value for type in traffic ....
    If the domain don't deliver then you can be sure that you will hear sooner or later the big booom
     
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  14. Nick_Mayhem

    Nick_Mayhem Notable Member

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    Very good advice. :) If you are buying 5000 domains then the best way is to start your own registrations. Or become a reseller for some registrar.
     
    Nick_Mayhem, Jan 14, 2007 IP
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    hitboy Well-Known Member

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    i advise you to check out resellerclub.com I use to use them for my web hosting biz they are good
     
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    stock_post Prominent Member

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    I have about 400 to 500 and I don't know what the F*** I am doing.

    Don't even know 20% of the names I have.

    Don't know which registar some of them are

    Some may not even be forwarded to my other domains.

    If you are going to get 5000, I am not sure how you are going to manage.

    Thanks
     
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  17. PeterX

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    My advice:

    - don't use RegisterFly
    - don't become your own registrar. This is a very competitive business and you should get very good prices on your domains.

    Check out Moniker. I've heard a lot of positive comment about them from serious domainers about their bulk tools and service. They will offer you a rate of $6.75 or lower if you are registering that many domains. They also offer a cheaper rate for .net registrations.
     
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  18. Optimus Crime

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    It will cost you extremely high amounts of money and infrastructure requirement. Search Google for more info.
     
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  19. mediology

    mediology Well-Known Member

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    registerfly!! Run away from them. Even if they are $1 it's NOT WORTH IT!

    Check the news. They are screwing people left and right. Including me.
    They were a reseller for Enom for a long time and for one reason or another are not anymore.
    Most domains which were registered through them via enom are now in lala land. I am in the middle of trying to get one out now.
    NO SUPPORT! 2 weeks no response to phone calls. NO response to tickets (2 submitted 0 answered!). Theya re still taking customers err should I say customers money.

    Godaddy is ok. Ive had maybe 100 names with them for a few years and never had any MAJOR problems but they did forget to send me renewal emails. Good thing I track renewals myself.

    With that many names Moniker should be your first choice and they will give you a really good price.

    I would also suggest hitting DNforum.com and asking around for second opinions. Many there have in the 10k - 100,000 names range so their insight would help. Also many of the registrars have staff who frequent DNF.

    GL
     
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  20. drig

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    Im going to 2nd reseller club actually. You will get domains (com, .net, .org) for just $6.49. Not to shabby. http://www.resellerclub.com/
     
    drig, Jan 14, 2007 IP