I have used adsense on my proxies' front index pages but am not allowd to put ads on the framed content where its displaying other sites. Adsense pays about 12 cents a click on the indexes. Now, I have tried bidvertiser on the index pages and their revenue is NOWHERE NEAR adsense's on the same sites. I have bidvertiser in my proxied framed pages too and the performance is miserable. Now I dont have any other accounts besides targetpoint(terrible per click rate) yet but can anyone predict how much the per click would be for any of the other lesser known PPC companies? I don't want to sign up for 20 different companies if I don't have to. I would rather just try what someone recommends first. And why is it that the clicks of the other companies seem to pay so much less than adsense pays? Whats the reason behind that?
Yes, I have experienced the same problem with my own proxy site. Adsense performs well enough on the non-framed page, but bidvertiser is terrible on the frame. The reason Google pays out much higher is that they have a much, much bigger network. Since they have more people willing to pay for advertising, their auctions for keywords are more successful. This means they receive more and are able to give out more to their adense customers. Imagine going to an auction and there are only 5 other people there. You are certain to get a good deal on something. Now if there were 500 people in that same auction room, you would probably not be able to get a good deal, since there are more people to bid up the price. Google is like an auction house that has the 500 people filling the room. (although in their case they probably have millions of customers) One solution to you proxy problem, is to find people that are willing to pay for links on your frame. This works especially well if you have a high PR. Another thing you can do is promote some of your other sites in that frame. -Fractal
I have been thinking about that as well. One problem is that 75% of my traffic is now from the following countries: Saudi, Iran, India and China. So its pointless to promote my other proxies to them. I will sink even deeper into lower yield operations whith fewer and fewer entities willing to pay me for anything.
You could always filter out any countries that pay poorly. You will also probably save on server resources as well. -Fractal
Yeah I had to do that last week. My CPU load was between 50% and 90% most of the time and server load was averaging 30! I banned a few blocks of IPs from a poorly paying(I assume) country and serve load fell to below 1 and CPU% was between 1% and 20%. CPU seems to be the bottleneck here interestingly enough not bandwidth.
Just got word today that they are rejecting new applications for their Yieldmanager program from proxy sites and phasing out existing accounts. anybody come up with a good advertising setup for the framed pages?
Well so far bidvertiser has been a failure. High payouts per click but not enough of the clicks I got a total of 14 clicks in 100,000 impressions. And revenue is less than $3 for all that. Too bad about yieldmanager thats sad. Should I try clicsksor next for the framed pages or are they even worse? Also...do popunders pay more than straight leaderboards for proxy pages?
^^ I had the same problem with Bidvertiser, at first I was making money then I stopped making it, when I knew I was getting clicks.
Well is it possible they shifted web categories? I mean I don't deny that they could be crooks especially hearing everyone's experiences but even I have had a situation where adsense paid next to nothing on a proxy site while on another one it got a lot more clicks. The reason might have been SEO related where the advertisors didnt see any keywords in my index page.