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Best CMS? Yes it has been asked a zillion times!

Discussion in 'Content Management' started by Kayz, May 5, 2008.

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    I am quite aware that im sure millions of people have asked the very same question and yes i have already been over to: opensourcecms.com and nothing really did answer my question.

    I am interested to know what the best SE friendly and content featured CMS that you guys know of.

    I need a CMS system particularly for an online local community that i am planning to setup for the local area that i live in. So it must have good accessiblity features etc and user friendly.

    I want to know the many different CMS's that you guys have used or have come across from your own experiences.

    I came across this cms which looks very cool and would be ideal for a CMS community i am trying to setup for my local community... take a look.

    http://www.affiliates4u.com/

    (I doubt that if i mailed them they would tell me what CMS they are using.)
     
    Kayz, May 5, 2008 IP
  2. wendallb

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    If you are looking for a community script I would try Dolphin, this is very nice script
     
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    deshabhishek007 Banned

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    i suggest try Dragon cms !!
    nice one
     
    deshabhishek007, May 5, 2008 IP
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    magdalene2008 Peon

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    Pixelrage Peon

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    uh oh, here come the opinions :p

    I'll throw my usual fanboy one in here: use Wordpress!
     
    Pixelrage, May 6, 2008 IP
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    This is a good and really important question for many of us. 'Best' can mean many things but for all of us, to some degree at least, it relates to the ability to create a site well optimised for search engines.
    I have a colleague using Joomla exclusively. His SERP results to date have been moderate and we have heard that Joomla is not the best for search engines (I think to do with the extended url??)
    Can anyone shed any light on this?
     
    J4JeffR, May 7, 2008 IP
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    Pixelrage Peon

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    My last company had a Joomla site for 3 years and it was absolute sh*t in terms of SEO. All you had to go by in terms of ranking was backlinks and on-page SEO, but it didn't help that the URLs looked like a long string of letters and numbers. It was also painfully slow to load, even on a T1.
     
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    egonitron Well-Known Member

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    I'm hearing a lot of bad things about joomla regarding SEO. Is this still the case? If so, what would you recommend other than Joomla? Not including Wordpress, I'm looking for a more scalable solution.
     
    egonitron, May 7, 2008 IP
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    Joomla Is the best as i know so far. any body try MODx CMS ?
     
    me4you, May 7, 2008 IP
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    In Joomla 1.5.x you can turn on the SEO friendly URL thinga-magic :) I nearly went for Drupal tho, but went ahead for Joomla for its abundancy of templates.
     
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    I really love FrogCMS, very flexible
     
    webblab, May 13, 2008 IP
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    Haven't used it myself, but I saw a lot of recommendations of Drupal for a community CMS. :)
     
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    Lever Deep Thought

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    Joomla! 1.5 has improved SEO over Joomla! 1.0.x but still falls short in the total satisfaction department. To make Joomla! fully SEO-friendly you'd need to make some custom hacks, and that's not everybody's cup of tea.
     
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    I'd recommend Joomla. But if you can afford it, Expression Engine.
     
    sylv3rblade, May 13, 2008 IP
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    I like Joomla. I would agree Expression Engine is a good product if you can find a good designer to make your template.

    As fare as SEO comments above. People worry way to much about onsite SEO. Yes it's important to a point. But it's far more important to get quality SEO links from other sites.

    I have Joomla Sites in the Top 10 for my intended target Audience on the Big G, and that with the Default SEO turned on in Joomla 1.5
     
    internetmarketingiq, May 14, 2008 IP
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    Just wondering -

    I been using Wordpress eversince i started,

    But have heard good things about Joomla and Drupal,

    So comparing WP and these 2, what are the advantages of those over WP ?
     
    Nystul, May 14, 2008 IP
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    By far its Joomla, it has the most extensions, the best templates, amazing support forums, a very active community, and its easy to learn and advance with it, plus there are many SEF components for it, alot of community building applications, and much more. joomla.org
     
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  19. k_e_i_k_u_n_1_7

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    i suggest you make your own. no im not being an ass but theres this nifty php framework that can help you get stuff done fast called : SYMFONY

    look it up, GLHF :)
     
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    Hi,

    I use Wordpress quite a bit, and I have been evaluating Joomla, Drupal, and ExpressionEngine. My basic advice, is to use Wordpress whenever possible.

    Wordpress is an extensible CMS with a rigid framework. This rigid framework has several major advantages:

    1) Backward compatibility between versions
    2) Easy to design and install new "install-and-click" themes.
    3) Greater reliability
    4) Greater stability (add-on plugins and modules can introduce security flaws)
    5) Easy to learn and administer
    6) Easier to develop new plugin-extensions
    7) Easier to customize, with PHP code
    8) Lots of plugins and utilities to make life easy while administering and migrating your applications.

    The big disadvantage of Wordpress, is that the application has to fit within Wordpress's framework (just look at the themes and you can understand the framework). If the application does not fit within the framework, you have to start coding in PHP, either within the template system - or possibly even within the core modules, which should be avoided at all costs.

    Joomla is a step up from Wordpress in flexibility, since there are some substantial modules that have been developed (e.g. jReviews, community software, etc), using the Joomla development libraries. If, and only if, you can use one of these off-the shelf modules, as is, then it makes sense to use Joomla. However, by moving to Joomla, you have to except all of the issues associated with the hodgepodge of developers and modules out there, e.g.:

    1) Much more bugs
    2) Very little backward compatibility (Joomla 1.5, is a virtual mess for user and developers who have to rewrite their modules)
    3) More unpredictability (e.g. security, reliability)
    4) A more difficult CMS to understand and use because of the messiness of the architecture

    Drupal is sort a much more malleable CMS, that is designed around a building block approach. The Drupal architecture lends itself toward customized a CMS application that really fits the users flow and needs. However, a developer needs to learn about the modules that are available, and know how to effectively use them. Experienced database developers will readily recognize the value of modules such as Views (which filters and presents information), while HTML/CSS designers may not understand the power of such building blocks. But if you understand the product, it gives you lots more control over your user interface and flow, making it a good alternative to coding in PHP/MySQL (it provides, what is called, a higher level of abstraction compared to PHP).

    Drupal (and Joomla), is a development mess, which is the result of its opensource legacy. Opensource products do not have any allegiance to their customer base (the core developers treat it more like a hobby rather than a business), and critical modules are not well tested, and come out in a staggered fashion. For example Drupal 6.2, still does not have a complete set of modules. Not only is this problematic for the short term, it is a severely risky proposition for the long term.

    There are other CMS products such as MODx that provide even greater flexibility, but as you get more flexibility, you are also approaching the same level of development knowledge as would be required for PHP coding.

    Hope this helps,
    Rich
     
    richrf, May 17, 2008 IP
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