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Belgian Publishers Want $77.5 Million Damages From Google

Discussion in 'Google' started by mwasiqansari, May 29, 2008.

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    Belgian Publishers Want $77.5 Million Damages From Google
     
    mwasiqansari, May 29, 2008 IP
  2. tokyoice

    tokyoice Well-Known Member

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    Wow that's a lot of cash but not much to Google maybe? :p

    Thanks for the heads up. I'll be passing this on.
     
    tokyoice, May 29, 2008 IP
  3. newbie3

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    #3
    good start :p

    More is comming ....
     
    newbie3, May 29, 2008 IP
  4. Sohan

    Sohan Peon

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    Good on them, google need some power removing! Other wise we will get a big brother google. For example, their new health service!
     
    Sohan, May 29, 2008 IP
  5. MindBlogger

    MindBlogger Peon

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    This is just madness... They want Google to pay because Google actually care to syndicate their content on Google? Why don't they just sue Google for indexing their site also?
     
    MindBlogger, May 29, 2008 IP
  6. Sjorritsma

    Sjorritsma Peon

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    #6
    Old media vs New Media
     
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  7. newbie3

    newbie3 Peon

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    that will be the next step ;)

    Europe goverment is working on something very nasty for google...

    Hopefully in future they can only index websites who are giving permition... without permition --> no indexing...
     
    newbie3, May 29, 2008 IP
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    kellyifrah Guest

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    #8
    If you don't want something to be common knowledge you should not put it on the internet :p
     
    kellyifrah, May 29, 2008 IP
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    skypeace Well-Known Member

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    hahaha You are right

    Agreed. And news is something that is meant to be shared......
     
    skypeace, May 29, 2008 IP
  10. slihta

    slihta Peon

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    #10
    google runs over anyone
     
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  11. guidyy

    guidyy Active Member

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    The whole story is different:
    Copiepresse wants money because Google cached pages that were supposed to be "for members only"
    They should sue their own web team instead. Ever heard of "noindex nocache" ? Hysterically, they want to look at google's log from 2001 to see how many hit they got on their cached pages.
    I would send them an hard copy of the logs...
     
    guidyy, May 29, 2008 IP
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    ckgni Active Member

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    #12
    Is this a new way of making money online or what?

    - Creating a web site
    - Publishing content on your site
    - Letting Google to index the content
    - Seeing that the site content does not earn any money because it is crap
    - Playing the victim and asking Google to pay because it indexed the content

    Doh... if they didn't want Google to index their site, they could just use a robots.txt file or block Googlebot from Apache using .htaccess

    Who else here will bet that they will get a super shiny great amount of 0$ from this lawsuit? ;)
     
    ckgni, May 29, 2008 IP
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    chopsticks Active Member

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    If the content was for members only then why wasn't it protected right?

    If it was protected correctly from non members then google would not of been able find and index the content...
     
    chopsticks, May 29, 2008 IP
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    #14
    This is just a way for them to extort money from Google.
     
    cool_78, May 29, 2008 IP
  15. newbie3

    newbie3 Peon

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    well, thats the hole point about it

    at those pages there was no : 'index, cache' so they never give them permision to grab and publish everything.

    Its not because a door is open, you can walk in and take everything...
    If you want to take something, you need permition in some way (letter, metatags (index cache),...)
    When there is nothing, you don't have permition.

    Google is not God, who can do whatever he wants...

    I wouldn't be sure about that ;)
     
    newbie3, May 30, 2008 IP
  16. guidyy

    guidyy Active Member

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    we can debate forever on this, and I'm really curious about what a judge will say.
    Since the whole internet is based on hyperlinks and searches for specific information, I would say that if I publish something on the internet is for people to find it.
    If I want some money for some specific content, well that's another story: I need to protect those pages at my best and tell the crawlers to stay away from that content.
    Now they are trying to hit the big daddy: but what about all those crappy harverster bots not obeying robots.txt and metas? Do you have any idea of where your content goes? Wouldn't you protect from them?
    IMHO the Belgians will loose big time, but I still think i can close a deal with an handshake, so I might be wrong.
     
    guidyy, May 30, 2008 IP
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    Wow.. I think they get some psychological ( damn the spelling) high suing huge corporations. I would personally love to sue Microsoft. *waits for opportunity*
     
    cicero, May 30, 2008 IP
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    Wow that's a lot of cash but not much to Google maybe?

    I also want to try somethink like that.....
     
    jameskertley1, May 30, 2008 IP
  19. chopsticks

    chopsticks Active Member

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    #19
    It'd be good to get paid for that, definetely. But thinking of something as such and going through with it will only get you shamed for failing when you try and sue. Plus on top of that getting banned sites, usage probably, etc...

    Don't want it found? Protect it in a smart manner or don't upload. Don't blame the automated bots finding the stuff.
     
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  20. godsofchaos

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    Booo! Why do they publish news then if people cant really get a hold of it. Google helped them, and they are backstabbin G :(
     
    godsofchaos, May 30, 2008 IP