Becoming a DMOZ editor, ready to pay.

Discussion in 'ODP / DMOZ' started by donttrustthisposter, Jun 5, 2007.

  1. Ivan Bajlo

    Ivan Bajlo Peon

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    #21
    I even declared websites that I hate because they fired me. :eek:

    And yes I have shown bias to few competitors websites by cooling them and they never even bothered to submitted there website to DMOZ I had to add it myself and fix broken link when there domain got hijacked not to mention breaking my back to write good description which wouldn't break guidelines but also wouldn't look like boring copy/paste text like thousands of others. :rolleyes:

    It is nice to know that at DMOZ that is considered self-interest.
     
    Ivan Bajlo, Jun 5, 2007 IP
  2. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

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    #22
    You can do it exactly the same way as DPlurker who is a "senior" editor in DMOZ, demonstrated his integrity and honesty by making multiple accounts in this forum and got banned for it. :rolleyes:
     
    gworld, Jun 20, 2007 IP
  3. Qryztufre

    Qryztufre Prominent Member

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    #23
    *snicker*
    I stepped down from being an editor because I ...
    ...demonstrated my integrity.
    ...demonstrated my communications skills.
    ...demonstrated my understanding of the category.
    ...paid attention to the detail.

    Though I do agree that those would be honorable traits which could certainly help in getting accepted. I'd also like to point out that it's a lack of those traits (on the part of a passing meta) that could get you fired.
     
    Qryztufre, Jun 21, 2007 IP
  4. nebuchadrezzar

    nebuchadrezzar Peon

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    #24
    Aren't you the guy who one week was posting here that we all need to stand together and destroy dmoz, the next week joining the project with a bs story about how you really want to help out. Now apparently you have gone back to wanting to destroy it. Yep sounds like integrity of the highest degree.
     
    nebuchadrezzar, Jun 21, 2007 IP
  5. Qryztufre

    Qryztufre Prominent Member

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    #25
    I do have a strict set of guidelines which I base my life around and I am proud of that. So it's nice that you can follow along, now head back and read my posts within the contexts that they were written. Tell me how I was incorrect in anything that I said. Or tell me how it did not fit within the scope of the definition of the word integrity.

    1 : firm adherence to a code of especially moral or artistic values: INCORRUPTIBILITY

    I will do many things in my loyalty to my other communities which I have been a part of for well over 2 decades. When I found my community niche online and I became a part of that I had the same loyalty. In that loyalty to my community I became a webmaster so that I could help futher the goals and aims of those of similar mind. Then I wanted to further the reaches of it by helping the inclusion of worthy sites within 'worlds largest directory'.

    My site and several other sites were submitted and never included. This was during the infamous crash, but I as some random webmaster was not privy to information to such things. All I knew was that I was not being included. When I went around and looked, guess what I saw? Claims of corrupt and evil editors only listing for cash. An out dates Google listing, and person after person saying their site was not listed.

    Of course I called out to the fellow webmaster to stand up against such dormant forces which still seemed to dominate SEO circles. I'd be a fool not too... it was not till weeks later that I actually learned why DMOZ was all but halted, so I bided my time, and more times then not I actually defended the ODP (I bet you didn't bother with any of those posts did you?).

    When the application system came back online I submitted my app (within hours of it's announcement!) all because I wanted to further my community.

    When I got accepted, I was not greeted with open arms...I was greeted with dead link after dead link within the newbies thread and editor categories. I was greeted with internal bickering, and more editors I could shake a stick at.

    I saw many editors getting reprimanded because they actually WANTED TO HELP ~ of course none of these editors came from Resource-Zone...

    In many ways it was like getting a new job where your boss points to your work station & grunts for you to get working.

    After a time I got to messing with the options available to me, only to find that meta Editors were kicking back my descriptions because I had a K in magicK even though that IS the correct spelling (even by DMOZ standards).

    Then, when Annie was let go for HELPING her community (and her community WAS DMOZ) I knew that I did not stand a chance there, as my INTEGRITY would get the better of me against closed minded people like yourself.

    So yes...I have that. Now care to point out where that is in the inner circles of DMOZ?
     
    Qryztufre, Jun 21, 2007 IP
  6. Ivan Bajlo

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    #26
    You know instead of wasting your time trolling on these forums you could do something useful and list at lest one of dozens of non-commercial cultural content rich websites I've submitted over past week to Croatia category. It seems DMOZ editors care more about their vanity then work they so eagerly volunteered to do. :p

    You can start here, many nice websites should be waiting unless someone evil deleted them... :rolleyes:

    Metas see only what they want to see, if they have even smallest doubt about you might as well Go Postal because your going to get fried anyway. You can defended DMOZ all day long list only non-commercial websites and you will still get removed. :mad:

    And you left such fun place? Darn I got to create fake account and join the fun - there is nothing like a good flame. :D

    Description Gestapo never stops working, searching for anything they can declare hype - I'm betting that is why none of museums I've submitted didn't get listed, I used to many fun words.
     
    Ivan Bajlo, Jun 21, 2007 IP
  7. roger_inkart

    roger_inkart Peon

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    #27
    I was recently rejected as an editor because two of the three sites I gave as samples were already listed in the directory. So, when you do apply search the directory to make sure the sites you are submitting are not there!

    FWIW.
     
    roger_inkart, Jun 21, 2007 IP
  8. Qryztufre

    Qryztufre Prominent Member

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    #28
    That would make sense ;)

    Though, find two more (non-listed) sites & re-apply.
     
    Qryztufre, Jun 21, 2007 IP
  9. roger_inkart

    roger_inkart Peon

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    #29
    Ironically, I did. And just got another rejection letter. This time saying the sites I submitted had nothing to do with the category (Line Art Illustration.)

    Of course, being a published line-art illustrator for over 10 years, what would I know about the subject? :confused::confused::confused:
     
    roger_inkart, Jun 21, 2007 IP
  10. Ivan Bajlo

    Ivan Bajlo Peon

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    #30
    You dare say that divine metas could be wrong, AGAIN? :rolleyes:

    One of those unwritten paranoid anti-corruption rules at DMOZ says that editor shouldn't edit in categories with which he/she is associated in some way to prevent Conflicts of Interest so you should pick something like Culture of Kazakhstan. :D

    P.S.
    Don't pick any Croatia categories or they might think you are me.
     
    Ivan Bajlo, Jun 21, 2007 IP
  11. champ_rock

    champ_rock Peon

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    #31
    i was rejected recently because i apparently did not disclose all my affiliation information.

    i do not know what that means :(
     
    champ_rock, Jun 21, 2007 IP
  12. Qryztufre

    Qryztufre Prominent Member

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    #32
    That means you are a member of Digital Point.

    That or you own, work for, or are a member of a related site to your category which you most likely listed.
     
    Qryztufre, Jun 22, 2007 IP
  13. dogbows

    dogbows Active Member

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    #33
    It's not what you know about the subject that counts in an application. It's how well you understand the editing process.

    Did you read the description of the category you applied for to make sure the sites were appropriate to that particular category?

    Since all the sites listed in your signature are related only one of them would be listable. And it would only be listable in Shopping. None of them would be appropriate for the Arts branch.
     
    dogbows, Jun 22, 2007 IP
  14. roger_inkart

    roger_inkart Peon

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    #34
    So...by this reasoning, I should apply for a category I know next to nothing about (let's say, Ancient Art of the Lost Tribes of Persia) rather than a subject I do know to lessen the chance that I'll be rejected for a conflict of interest...

    And this directory is calling the shots for Google and many others?

    I'm trying not to be bitter about it, but I spent a couple hours putting together what I thought was a pretty decent application for editor.
     
    roger_inkart, Jun 22, 2007 IP
  15. Qryztufre

    Qryztufre Prominent Member

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    #35
    Only Alexa as far as I know... Google kind of forgot about DMOZ someplace in 2005, as that was the last time it bothered updating it's directory list. I assume no one has gotten around to actually switching off the page is all ~ I'd assume thats because no one has bothered to actually visit it :D

    Heh, join the team of Ex-Eds, we are funner to hang out with, and a few of us have directories which may (or may not) be equally helpful. Check out Directories and see what other places you can get sites listed in.
     
    Qryztufre, Jun 22, 2007 IP
  16. dogbows

    dogbows Active Member

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    #36
    I spent several days studying the guidelines and category descriptions and about ten minutes on the app. I was accepted in 4 hours.
     
    dogbows, Jun 22, 2007 IP
  17. roger_inkart

    roger_inkart Peon

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    #37
    Well, FWIW I had my GF (a former content editor at a search engine) check it out and thought it was fine.

    Yes, and looked at the sites in the listing. IMO they were related to my own.

    So that would be because I sell prints of the illustrations?
     
    roger_inkart, Jun 22, 2007 IP
  18. roger_inkart

    roger_inkart Peon

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    #38
    Congratulations.
     
    roger_inkart, Jun 22, 2007 IP
  19. dogbows

    dogbows Active Member

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    #39
    Yes, indeed!
     
    dogbows, Jun 22, 2007 IP
  20. roger_inkart

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    #40
    Ok, DB - thanks for the info. Saved me some time and effort.
     
    roger_inkart, Jun 22, 2007 IP