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Beating a site with sitelinks to first position?

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by pipes, Mar 18, 2008.

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    Is it possible to knock a website down to 2nd, 3rd position and take first poistion in google if the competitor has sitelinks, or will their having sitelinks displayed pretty much make that impossible?

    I mean for any keyword or phrase relevant that i or anyone else could be ranking well for.
    SEMrush
    Im not asking how many links it would take or can i beat my competitor and how, but purely if their sitelinks for a keyword make them non passable.
     
    pipes, Mar 18, 2008 IP
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    Vic_mackey Banned

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    Companies should only be be able to get sitelinks for their own brand names or product names, I think its rare to see sitelinks for generic search terms. Though in UK an insurance company has them for a generic term.

    Nobody is unpassable, if you can build enough links, trust and content you can pass anyone. If you did pass someone who had sitelinks for that term then I assume the links would vanish, I've never seen anyone in 2nd place with the links.
     
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    I've had sitelinks for a variety of search terms unrelated to a product or brand name.
     
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    pipes Prominent Member

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    As an example, my competitor is there with sitelinks when i search a two word phrase, their domain is the first word and the 2nd word in the search phrase is one of their subdomains, im in 3rd position, im suprised as they have been establish much longer, in 2nd position is a seperate link of theirs.

    So i guess when they show up for that 2 word keyphrase its because their lucky enough to have the one word domain, plus well established, plenty pages and plenty backlinks.

    Ive got a feeling they dont work on seo, their sites strength is community i would say, so hopefully they dont see me coming, not really aware of me chasing them. :)

    Confused.com :) yeah i see those ads often, i actually dont like their ads, i rarely see a well done ad on british tv for internet based things like insurance and similar products, but it must be working for them i guess.
     
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    you have to get more links, and get more triffic, add more unque contents.
     
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    pipes Prominent Member

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    :) You must not of read my post.

    Will a sexy massage be relevant too? lol
     
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    Trippen Peon

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    Find out who owns the site and go and shag his wife. He is spending way too much time on the site and not enough time on her. You might not bump him out of first place but you will feel better. :rolleyes:
     
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    pipes Prominent Member

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    Another bizarre answer, you clearly didn't read the post.
     
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    Trippen Peon

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    The answer is clearly way over your head.
    With 4,883 posts someones probably shagging your wife.
     
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  10. sultanofseo

    sultanofseo Notable Member

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    just because a site has sitelinks doesn;t make it impossible to beat them. if it was a one word patented name, that would be different which is not the case. you are on a very good position being at 3rd already so its relatively easier for you. the other site you are talking about is not doing any SEO means another plus on your side. everything else you are doing must me right since you aer 3rd. i think with some more good quality relavant backlinks, you can get furher ahead
     
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    Impossible it self says that Oh Yeah !! I M POSSIBLE
    Well defeating a website having site links is tuff but is quite possible !!
    As far as i think .. SiteLinks are Nothing but some special respect from Google to some websites !!

    Google thinks that the company is expert in the key phrase Google is displaying site links... and what the company is providing is far good in comparison to its competetors .... like one said above insurance if you can prove Google that you are better then you will surely get 1st place and will get additional site links as a gift from Google .. kicking the present site to 2nd and Google will remove site links from the website currently having 1st position !!
    Remember age of domain and PR might be an important factor in this case !!
     
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    pipes Prominent Member

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    Wow, your so....

    To take the edge off of your fun :) i dont have a wife, or girlfriend or boyfriend etc, have you been a victim of this? you seem focused on wives and them being taken advantage of :p
     
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    pipes Prominent Member

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    Thanks sultanofseo, it gives me confidence that i can pass it, i was in 5 position recently then with in the last few days got to 3rd, as you say more relevant backlinks to help push it up, cool

    Thats an interesting thought, that mine getting to 1st is going to result in their sitelinks removed, i guess it may work that way, i keep seeing changes in sites with siteslinks where their showing 8 of them i think it is, then at another time half of that.

    The other site does have an older domain, i actually respect them with how established they are, i dont look at a competitor in an evil way but rather like the challenge to improve and push up my sites position.
     
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    If they have an older domain this will be tuff but believe me it is still possible !!!
    Get some High Quality Relevant links also if possible if you will manage to get a link from that website you want to beat up with targeted anchor text .. you will get 99% of your motive solved ;). Also try getting links from other websites who are in #1 position in google in other google DC .. .ie .. As above said for the term insurance in google.co.in #1 is wikipedia.org and in google.com #1 is insurance.com so getting backlinks from such sites will be 2 much helpful !!
    I hope this will help ;)
     
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    pipes Prominent Member

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    Thanks dpking, its great advice i will begin my further efforts to take their spot :) wont be easy but il give it my best shot. :)
     
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    You can knock them down in the opposite way, by optimizing the ones who are exactly bellow him, that way they will climb up, and he will go down.

    Simply.
     
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    pipes Prominent Member

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    Cool, thanks icetrax.
     
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    I'm confused, what the hell are sitelinks?
     
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    pipes Prominent Member

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    Thanks dpking :)

    skaterkee, sitelinks are when the search results for a website name or keywords shows additional links underneath, sometimes up to 8 extra.

    Like adobe http://www.google.com/search?client...al&channel=s&hl=en&q=adobe&btnG=Google+Search

    Its currently showing an extra 7 as i type this.
     
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