Be Carefull (it may be too good to be true)

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by paulgee, Apr 12, 2007.

  1. #1
    I have started this thread here because in the past I got told off for posting in the link sales forum, even although relative to that particular thread, please wait for an update here on what I believe to be a scam and although I may loose my $18 USD paid in the past this hopefully will prevent others from loosing larger sums of money…

    Wait for update
    Relative to thread:
    http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=290137

    Gee
     
    paulgee, Apr 12, 2007 IP
  2. Superman123

    Superman123 Peon

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    #2
    okay... Usually people post a thread after they get screwed, but good idea.. *Subscribed*

    Ill be waiting for the update!!
     
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  3. EducationLinks

    EducationLinks Well-Known Member

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    Um, please provide a hint of justifcation immediately.
     
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  4. paulgee

    paulgee Well-Known Member

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    THE STORY
    Earlier today I went to the thread:
    http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=290137
    Posted there as I was interested and would have probably bought about 4 links:

    Pixicat replied with the details of the offer with his paypal email address.

    His paypal email address showed past transactions on my system so curiously I investigated these transactions.

    It showed that I had purchased past links from another username with the exact same paypal address! The thread I purchased these links from is here:
    http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=172402

    So I contacted “Pixicat” because in the past I have not been able to get hold of “calce” to ask him why my links had disappeared off of those domains! And this is how that particular discussion went!

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    Me to Pixicat
    Hi
    You sold me 3 links on the 5 Nov. 2006 on your 3 sites for a year but those links no longer exist on those sites? Could you please explain? I will need an answer in the next hour before I take any further action if this is a scam!

    I apoligise in advance if this is in error

    Regards
    Paul

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    Pixicat reply:
    i have all links in the directories that where wass created inthe first day .
    what links are ¿?

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    Me to Pixicat
    the links on these sites!

    alicebuilding.com
    castbylorenz.com
    care-for-earth.com

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    Pixicat reply:
    Originally Posted by pixicat
    alicebuilding is not mine ,

    castbylorenz and care-for-earth yes , what is the url ?

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    Me to Pixicat
    Originally Posted by paulgee
    Hi
    That’s strange because they were sold to me here?
    http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=172402

    Under a different user name though!

    Regards
    Paul

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    Pixicat reply:
    pff this person was banned few months ,

    but this 6 directories still online because i still payment the server , alicebuilding is not mine is the other person , I still having the same links before .if you don´t have the links first check in search directory for the url sure that your links are live .

    thanks .

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    Me to Pixicat
    So what your saying is this has nothing to do with you i.e. that thread?

    And: you have never sold links for
    alicebuilding.com

    And he may have ripped me off saying those sites were his?

    Is this true?
    I want to be absolutely clear! Obviously someone has taken my money on false pretenses then!

    Paul

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    Pixicat reply:
    sorry you must think that i am this calce that i wass sold to you the links ?

    then if you think this send me urls of link and copy of ID transation of paypal and i refund your money now.

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    Me to Pixicat
    Hi
    Yes; I do think you are this calce character! No in fact I know you are mate, I specifically checked the links when they were put up there on all your sites! I can give you the paypal ID and yes I would like a refund!

    Transaction Details
    (LEFT OUT!)

    Paul

    END#########
     
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  5. paulgee

    paulgee Well-Known Member

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    And you are Exactly??????????????????

     
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    EducationLinks Well-Known Member

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    #6
    I am a person who told him to PM info when I saw your post to avoid him, while showing no concrete justifcation.
     
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  7. paulgee

    paulgee Well-Known Member

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    Well as you can tell it was quite a lot to write out (so please forgive the non justification stright away) in a perfect world I may be able to type faster:) Anyway he has stopped contacting me after being in continual discussion!
     
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  8. paulgee

    paulgee Well-Known Member

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    I don’t think for one minute I will get my $18 back but I thought this might save others a whole heap of money; I nearly went in and bought another four links!

    Paul :D

     
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    Wish others would do this after they get screwed to save others.
     
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    #10
    so you are saying that the paypal account use in this thread is the same as the one used by someone who is banned.?
    then i think you are justified in this, and feel the mods should check to see if the accounts have the same ip#
     
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    Thanks for the warning , i intended to buy some links from this guy .
     
    smartgirl, Apr 13, 2007 IP
  12. paulgee

    paulgee Well-Known Member

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    #12
    I have contacted 1 or 2 others from the original thread to see if their ad’s are still up but they have not replied yet, we are talking 5 months ago.

    Also; Pixicat has so far disappeared and is not offering a refund as promised!

    Yeah; both paypal email address are identical! It’s just lucky that I picked up on it and smelt a rat, it was flagged up that my links had been taken off anyway as I check these every few months, laborious task but it’s saved me $600 dollars this time around.

    You’re talking $150 minimum that someone will pay and may loose if he does the same again, probably places little value on his username! And thanks.

    I nearly bought 4 more from him, it’s just lucky I keep all my paypal transactions in a database, again no problem.
     
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  13. pixicat

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    #13
    hello i am pixicat , no calce , i wass say to you that i will refund your money but too wass say that you must check if your links still in the directories , care-for-earth and castbylorenz , because i am sure what your links are here .
    if the links there are here or not there are here i will refund your money. i sorry that alicebuilding is not mine but i will try speak with the webmaster for clear this situation .

    sure that your links are not in alicebuilding because the template wass changed,but try check it in castbylorenz and care-for-earth what is where I AM SELLING LINKS .

    thanks , good day .
     
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    #14
    pixicat - did you buy calce's paypal address? If not, why is the paypal account the same?
     
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  15. paulgee

    paulgee Well-Known Member

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    The advertisement was easy it was on 3 sites i.e.:
    3 sites - 6$ Year - PR4 - Homepage + All Pages.

    I took all three sites for $18.00, bargain or so I thought at the time!

    My ad was not in a sub dir or buried anywhere it was across all your sites at that time! And on the front page as per your advert @

    http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=172402

    i.e. 3 sites - 6$ Year - PR4 - Homepage + All Pages

    My thought here is you should be prepared to stick to your agreements mate, ok; so you may have done it too cheap, and I do actually agree (that it was cheap) but if you make a mistake you learn from it not back out after agreeing! I paid you in good faith for something you said you would do and you so clearly have not! :(



     
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    paulgee Well-Known Member

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    Received $15.00 refunds

    Mate, I am sorry I cannot trust you even although you have partly refunded me now; you said that you do not own alicebuilding.com yet you own the other two, and you keep going on about another Webmaster?

    1. Fact is you have admitted that you own the other two domains!
    2. Fact is I paid the same paypal email address as you are using now!
    3. Fact is on a simple whois lookup (TODAY) “rafael utrilla bernardo” of the same address owns all three domains!

    This is how I have come to the conclusion that even although your username has changed I conclude that am dealing with the same person!

    So:
    Domain name: care-for-earth.com
    Administrative Contact: rafael utrilla bernardo

    Domain Name: CASTBYLORENZ.COM
    Registrant: Rafael Utrilla

    Domain Name: alicebuilding.com
    REGISTRANT: pixi rafael utrilla bernardo (pixicat maybe?)

    Paul
     
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    #17
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    ooooh I'm hooked.


    pixeldust is subscribing to this thread immediately!


    vanessa.
     
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  18. paulgee

    paulgee Well-Known Member

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    LOL, Glad it perked your interest :D

    Bit annoyed about my links and could go on a bit more but he has refunded me and put another offer on the table, will watch him in the future and see what happens.

    paul

     
    paulgee, Apr 14, 2007 IP