Barrack Obama’s aunt living in U.S. illegally in Public Housing

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  1. Zibblu

    Zibblu Guest

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    #41
    HAHAHAA. McCain lies CONSTANTLY about things that actually matter (like Obama's tax plan.) I'm supposed to care that a politician lies about something that does not matter AT ALL that is involving his family (assuming that he is lying, and I think that's a big assumption to make considering the facts.)
     
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  2. bogart

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    #42
    Obama's lies about this may cost him the election.
     
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    #43
    Didn't we go through this already?

    I'll remind you:

    I'm not voting for Auntie Z.:mad:
     
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  4. Zibblu

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    #44
    OK :rolleyes: I see what I'm dealing with here.

    Continue having fun discussing your conspiracy theories.

    Meanwhile how about I change the subject to something a little bit more interesting to normal people who don't live in their parent's basement: THE ECONOMY.

    We've tried it both ways. We tried it the Democrat's way in the 1990s under Bill Clinton. We tried it the Republican's way in the 2000s under George W. Bush. We've done the experiment. We know that "trickle down" economics does not work. It's time to go with what does work.

    Barack Obama is the only choice if you care about the future of this country. Go to VoteForChange.com and find your polling location. Vote for Change on November 4th. We cannot have another 4 years of the same policies are destroying this country.

    Intelligent voters can see what's going on here. They see one side throwing nonsensical smears at the wall and the see the other side talking about the future of our country and the big issues facing it. The choice is obvious: Obama/Biden '08.
     
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  5. robjones

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    #45
    I just think it's nice to finally hear the truth... Zib adopts the standard liberal colors and is just fine with his guy lying to the public (wait, why WOULD he lie if this was a non-issue)... it just doesnt really matter.

    There's no way this lady flew from Africa to the US to his inauguration and then it slipped her mind to mention that she was seeking to stay. Obama's telling a crystal clear whopper.

    I hope not everyone is as "intellectually dishonest" as to not care. We arleady know where Zib stands on that.
     
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  6. Zibblu

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    #46
    Except for this:

    1. There's no proof Obama lied about anything.

    2. Nobody except for far right wing lunatics (who were voting against Obama anyway) gives a damn.

    On election day people won't be thinking about Obama's auntie. They'll be thinking about George W. Bush & Dick Cheney.
     
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  7. bogart

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    #47
    I don't have a day job so I actually have to WORK for a living. :)

    I for one would be concerned about how many other lies Obama is telling the US Public. :mad:

    It would have been easy for Obama to tell the truth about his aunt.
     
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  8. Zibblu

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    #48
    Seven Reasons To Vote For Barack Obama
    (find your polling place & vote on November 4th)

    1. Obama is right on the economy. Obama's economic policies are similar to those of Bill Clinton. McCain's are similar to those of George W. Bush. Does anything else need to be said really?

    2. Obama is right on health care. Obama's plan will lower health care costs while getting more people covered. McCain's health care plan would be a disaster. Independent studies indicate that 20 million more Americans would be without health care with McCain's plan.

    3. Obama was right on Iraq. If you go back and read what Obama said in 2002 re: Iraq he was right about everything. Conversely if you go back and read what McCain said in 2002 on Iraq you'll see he was wrong about everything. Obama has far better judgment when it comes to foreign policy than does McCain.

    4. Obama was right on Afghanistan. Obama was always for taking the fight to where it belongs: Osama Bin Laden's backyard. McCain is only now coming around on this. Again, Obama was right and McCain was wrong on foreign policy.

    5. Obama is right on alternative energy. Obama knows that the future of America rests on technology not on "drill baby drill" backward looking nonsense. This is extremely important. Where America is 10 years from now could rest on where we go right now on this important issue. If McCain is elected we'll stand still or even move backward. With Obama we will move into the future.

    6. Obama has ran an incredible campaign that has been entirely without drama and managed with precision. There's an obvious contrast with the sort of pasted together feeling of the McCain campaign. I think this is very important. It's a great indication of their managerial skills and after all being President is a lot like being manager of the United States.

    7. A vote for John McCain puts the bubble head Sarah Palin one 72 year old heartbeat away from the Presidency. Palin is so astoundingly ignorant she thinks we are currently at war with Iran. Sarah Palin should be the FEAR card. All real Americans should be scared as hell that this ridiculous person could theoretically be the President on 1/20/09.
     
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  9. bogart

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    #49
    FOX has reported that Obama supporters are registering in New Mexico despite strong residing in other states

    Immigration Fraud and Voter Fraud? Who cares?

    In August, Adamski joined the Democratic National Convention as a California delegate. On October 5, he registered to vote in New Mexico

    Calif. delegate registers to vote in N.M
    http://www.foxnews.com/video2/video...w.foxnews.com/photoessay/0,4644,5531,00.html#


    What matters is that Obama offers hope :rolleyes:
     
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  10. Zibblu

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    #50
    bogart - you know that the john mccain/sarah palin/fox news campaign will run with any voter fraud story they can as if it's a big deal but the truth is all of these sorts of isolated stories don't add up to much at all. it's a distraction from the real issue which is systematic voter suppression.

    the GOP cries about a few illegal votes being made while simultaneously suppressing millions of legal votes.

    this whole ACORN/voter fraud thing is nothing but a GOP cover for the real issues.
     
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  11. kaethy

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    #51
    1. There's no indication he knew about this, he's got relatives all over the place, and he's been pretty busy lately. But if he did, do you think he should have turned her in for deportation? That's what you would do to your aunt, right?
    2. He was born in Hawaii, the Hawaiian birth certificate has been confirmed by state officials. That would be enough for a reasonable person. But if he was born in Kenya (and he wasn't), he would have DERIVED CITIZENSHIP status through his mother, so either way, he's not an illegal alien.
     
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  12. Zibblu

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    #52
    I don't think anyone could put it any better than that. You nailed it right on the head right there.

    Thank God there's only 2 days left for these kind of ridiculous right wing smears. I can't wait until Election Day so we can finally vote. Bush/McCain must lose. Vote Obama - VoteForChange.com (find your polling location.)
     
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  13. GeorgeB.

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    #53
    I think that part in bold gets at the very core of why conservatives are so frustrated with Obama.

    They try to make him a liar at every little turn. Problem is when you look at it subjectively the idea becomes a little thin because of that very question you asked. He has nothing to gain by lying here because it's an empty story. Just like the natural born citizen issue and the Bill Ayers issue.

    Example: The birth certificate issue started out as a firestorm. Obama kept his cool (pissing off a lot of conservatives :D). But conservatives were up in arms and just new they had their golden ticket issue. Obama posted his birth certificate and a few other places did as well. They cried FAKE. Then he allowed outside sources access to it AND the state of Hawaii verified it's authenticity. AND a local Honululu paper backed it by showing where his birth in Hawaii was announced. So the only shred of hope the conservatives were left with was to say... "well why didn't he give it to the court when they asked?" They were so desperate to find something wrong after being embarrassed with the truth that they didn't stop and ask themselves, what would he really have to gain by lying about it at this point. It's already proven.

    The answer? It's already proven and he doesn't need to waste time on it. The internet will take care of itself. People will find out about this and the ones that truly want to get to the truth will eventually end up on the factcheck.org site. The ones that don't probably won't and weren't likely going to vote for him anyway.

    Fox news isn't reporting on this either.... Are they a part of the elite media? No, they just realize this is a non-issue too.

    But don't worry, they're still on your side conservatives. Instead they're (right now) showing the Iraq war vet that supports McCain with that video that got 12 million views that says "the war is not a mistake". In their next segment they are going to talk about the "threats America will face" after we elect the next president. They're showing pictures of 9/11 and the towers coming down, classy....

    So back to Auntie.... I don't know how many of you have had the opportunity to be around old people lately. Specifically old minority people. They're proud people. And the idea that you can't see how she would have simply not bothered Barack with her problem out of pride is just as alien to me as the idea that just maybe Barack is telling the truth is alien to you.

    The biggest part of your frustration in most of your attempts to make Barack the bad guy is that you lack concrete evidence. And every time you try to vigorously bring charges against him then backpedal and concede that you don't actually have any solid evidence (only your suspicions). Well, your bias shows, and you are discredited as a source just a little bit more every time. (bogart) :D
     
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    #54
    If you were a woman doing something slightly dodgy in terms of immigration I think the VERY LAST person you would tell would be a relative that was in the Senate and running for high office, for fear that
    a) you'd get him into trouble
    b) he'd feel he'd have to do the 'right thing' and report you.
     
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    #55
    No matter how hard you guys try, Obama will rock McCain's world. Just 48 hours.
     
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    #56
    ROFL... "Old people"? Watch it junior... she's only 5 years older than I am. Age is relative. If you think I qualify as "old people" drag your little butt down to Texas, saddle up, and try to keep up with me for a day.

    Don't be afraid. I'll give you a gentle horse. LOL ;)
     
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    #57
    lol, my bad grandpa :D

    I can barely keep up with my 7 y/o so this is a challenge I may have to concede ;)

    But if you're looking for someone to run against you for President in the DP general election, I'm game :)
     
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    #58
    Obama's aunt Zeituni Onyango also made illegal campaign donations to Obama.

    The system is broken when illegal aliens are on welfare and making campaign donations of your tax dollars to Obama.
     
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  19. Mia

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    #59
    I think people are missing the bigger point here. How long as Obama himself been living illegally in the US?
     
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    #60
    I keep pointing this out, & it keeps being ignored...one last time.

    Even if he was born in Kenya, he would have "Derived Citizenship" through his mother. (Go look it up) If she was in Kenya when he was born, she was only visiting there not residing there, so the thing about living in the US for a certian length of time does not apply. So he is not an illegal alien no matter what.

    Of course, normal people would accept that his Hawaiian birth certificate is valid after being made public and verified by the authorities.

    Just tell me, what else could prove his Hawaiian birth???

     
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