Barak says Israel is 'close' to Gaza operation

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  1. The Webmaster

    The Webmaster IdeasOfOne

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    #41
    Fighting off the occupying forces is one thing, but blowing up civilian buses, markets and using women and children as defense shield is completely another..

    I would have not condemned the actions or even called them terrorists if they were fighting off the Israeli forces. But blowing buses and markets is not the same..
     
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    #42
    I suggest that you read the article posted at http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=498478 and tell me if you would say the same thing about the israeli occupation forces.

    "Using women and children as defense shield" is an excuse used by israel occupation forces to justify their blowing up palestinian women and children.
    When palestinian women and children are killed, it is never the fault of the israel forces. It is always the palestinians fault.
    Remember: Israel forces can do no evil. Palestinians are evil beasts who want their women and children killed. They are not like the rest of us who love and cherish our women and children.
     
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    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #43
    This is the most well thought out post you've ever made here. I could not agree more. Not only are they hiding behind their women and children, but hezbollah did the same thing last year and muslim men do the same thing in Iraq. It's an ongoing problem with muslim fighters (in addition to not fighting in uniform) and I'm glad to see you condemn this.
     
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    #44
    i think Israel needs to stand up for itself and take back its land(or as i believe) :)
     
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    ablaye Well-Known Member

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    #45
    Funny how you can't tell sarcasm.
    This comment is so outrageous that only you can agree with it.
    Only a bigot would support such a statement.
     
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    ablaye Well-Known Member

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    #46
    As far as I know, you were not there and I was not there. And you are accepting as fact the justification that the Israeli forces gave to the world to explain why they had to massacre so many lebanese civilians.

    What is closer to the truth is that the Israeli forces set out to destroy Hezbollah but they could not find where the hezbollah fighters were. So they resorted to indiscrimantly bombing lebanese cities and villages and guessing where Hezbollah fighters might be.
    Were the Israeli forces stupid enough to think that the hezbollah fighters would be all standing in an open area so that they could be easily taken out from the air by israeli jets????
    It does not work that way.
     
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    #47
    so you did not understand my references to hitler or 'mein kampf', and just for the record i was not foaming at the mouth, i leave all that to those war mongering morons on this forum who want only to annihilate any people/race they disapprove of.
    my references to mein kampf were in perfect keeping with the sentiments expressed by many on this particular thread, though i might have expected the relevance of that to pass certain people by.
    for there are those who in reply to this thread have called palestinians 'animals' or 'savages', and relished the thought of the israelis 'kicking butt' as they so eloquently put it, which of course means killing them, and whether they are actually hamas fighters or innocent civilians doesn't seem to register.
    in germany under hitler the nazis also referred to jews as 'animals' and 'savages' and dehumanised them by putting out all kinds of propaganda, which turned many ordinary germans into jew hating fanatics, eager to turn in any jews living near them to the authorities.
    it is so easy to hate a different people or race, especially when much of what we see or hear on tv or read in the newspapers seems to point towards a certain people or race actually deserving such hatred. yet we are punishing a whole race for the acts of a very few hardcore fanatics who do not represent the vast number of muslims or arabs living in this world. baying for the blood of innocent men women and children.
    then we justify it by quoting what we heard or saw on the news, about suicide bombers killing israelis etc., without weighing that against what the israelis are doing to palestinians.
    celebrating a mighty army lining up to kill a motley crew of fighters hidden amidsta civilian population is barbaric, these people are exactly the same as you or me, they have the same rights.
    get my point now!
     
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    #48
    Its not an excuse used by Israel nor is it unique to Palestinian terrorists. This is a common practice by Islamic terrorists all over the world. They found it very effective as it successfully delusions people into the thought process that opposing forces are evil.

    We have seen it in Afghanistan, Iraq. Leave Afghanistan and Iraq, as the equally 'EVIL' America is involved there. Let's see the recent chaos in Lal Masjid (Red Mosque) Pakistan. The clerics/terrorists had taken women and children hostage inside the mosque and hide behind them, that had got 3 women and some children killed and left many wounded. Another cleric Used women as shield to escape from the mosque. So its pretty common. Only people with extreme sympathy towards Islamofascists and extreme hatred towards opposing forces would deny to see/accept it.

    About Israeli forces being evil and deliberately killing women and children. It's known fact that Israel is the superior force in the region. They have more fire power than the all countries combine in that region. If they wanted to kill Palestinians they would have killed more than half of the Palestinian population.

    Agree that Israeli forces weren't clean all the time in this long struggle, agreed that there are times when they did wrong things. But most of the killings of civilians from the Israel were a result of mistakes, or ignorance from the Palestinian side.

    Now about Palestinians wanting their women and children dead, is not very far from the truth. Obviously they want them dead when they hid behind them using them as defense shield and when they send them as suicide bomber to kill those evil jooz.
     
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    #49
    Why am I wasting my time debating you???? This is the last time I reply to one of your ignorant posts. You don't even try to be logical.
     
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    #50
    What?? I didn't even suggested masturbation to you!!!!

    Is it your incapability to counter the arguments? Ohhhh I'm so surprised!!!
     
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