Cheers guys I've learnt a lot from these posts, i'm going to prob buy BANS and try and pick up some php along the way. I've very basic HTML knowledge but thats what Dreamweavers for. The biggest thing I learnt was the generosity of some people in here and that some will be a little more greedy taking as much as they can with one hand and then trying to take a load more with the other. Been on here a couple of months now and loving it, many thanks