banned from adsense

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  1. Nonny

    Nonny Notable Member

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    #41
    You may not be displaying copyrighted content on your site, but you are intentionally linking to sites that infringe copyright. If nothing else, you are breaking this rule in the Program Policies:

    https://www.google.com/adsense/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=48182
    There are legal places to watch TV episodes online for free, like Hulu.com or CBS.com. Link to those and not sites which are clearly breaking copyright laws.
     
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  2. somenamewtf

    somenamewtf Peon

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    #42
    Nonny, I am not linking to sites that promote or participate in illegal activities. I only link to sites that have policies in place that do not allow users to upload copyrighted content. Sites such as youtube.com, megavideo.com, etc.
     
    somenamewtf, May 21, 2009 IP
  3. Nonny

    Nonny Notable Member

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    #43
    But you are intentionally linking to videos that have been illegally uploaded (despite the policies those sites have) and that is the entire basis of your site. But I suspect that Google's problem is not just that you link to copyright-infringing content, but that your site doesn't have any original content of its own. The only text you have - one or two sentence descriptions of the TV episodes - appears to have been copied from other sites.

    According to the Adsense program policies this is a requirement:
     
    Nonny, May 21, 2009 IP
  4. kahanidesi

    kahanidesi Active Member

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    #44
    my webblog is also banned for adsense now i am running other networks. well i am not actally happy with them but i've no other option so keep it up
    here is my website Kahani Desi
     
    kahanidesi, May 21, 2009 IP
  5. somenamewtf

    somenamewtf Peon

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    #45
    Nonny,

    What about SideReel.com? Why do they provide an even more copyright infrigning site than I do, yet they are a "premium" adsense publisher or whatever?

    Thank you for your opinion, but I do not agree with your perspective. Written words are not the only sort of content. What if I were an artist and my website contained mostly images and few words? Would that be a site with no content in your opinion?

    What if your "art" is collecting links and building quality link directories that don't exist anywhere else? A lot of people like a simple site without all the pointless bells and whistles (ex: craigslist).

    Just because you personally do not realize the value of my content, does not mean that it has no value. You just don't get the value, and if you don't get it, the site isn't for you. Come back when you have a nice 50" TV hooked up to your computer :)

    And it is not my job to verify that what the users are uploading to the sites that I link to do not violate copyright, they pay people to do that sort of stuff. I leave it up to those sites to weed out the copyright infringers. By your logic, google.com is a pretty slimey service for showing you links to all those copyright infringers - should it be google's job to make sure everything is legal?
     
    somenamewtf, May 22, 2009 IP
  6. somenamewtf

    somenamewtf Peon

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    #46
    Kahani, your site has porn on it and this clearly violates AdSense TOS... I will not use porn ads because I greatly disapprove of pornography
     
    somenamewtf, May 22, 2009 IP
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    #47
    why message remove ?
     
    miracle98, May 22, 2009 IP
  8. Nonny

    Nonny Notable Member

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    #48
    Well first off, SideReel has a lot more original content than just links to videos - they have reviews, news, they have discussions, and articles about TV shows and movies. Secondly, they link to legal streams (for example: CBS.com, iTunes, hulu, Fancast, etc). That isn't comparable to your site at all.
    A site with original artwork has plenty of content. However, that content would not make it appropriate for Adsense, because Adsense requires text.
    Oh, give me a break. I watch a lot of TV streams on my computer, which is how I know where to find them legally. Ask yourself what makes your site stand out from all the rest? What value does it add beyond a list of episodes that can be found all over the web? Your site does not offer the value that sites like SideReel do, because it's nothing beyond copied descriptions of the episodes and links to illegally uploaded versions videos.

    And in the end it doesn't matter what I think, or what you think. It matters what Adsense thinks, and from what I've read in the Program Policies, their blog and their help forums, your site must have original text content to be a good match for the program.
     
    Nonny, May 22, 2009 IP
  9. somenamewtf

    somenamewtf Peon

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    #49
    [edited out by user in the interest of privacy]

    And if you argue that only users submit the sleazy links and it's not SideReel's job to moderate them - You should know that all of the SideReel mods also run sites exactly like mine that are landing pages for traffic from sites like SideReel. I'm referring to the mods who work there, and have full support of the admins. SideReel is clearly breaking AdSense TOS if I am, and if they aren't than neither am I.


    My website has a ton of quality content... there are no other lists exactly the same as the ones I have created - my lists are the best :D I keep them up to date and validate the links constantly. Unlike SideReel where 20%+ of the links are to stuff other than what they are labeled for, or do not work at all.

    And honestly your argument about good content should be irrelevant. To use an analogy...

    There are tons of crappy, worthless TV shows on network/cable, but they still display ads - maybe at a reduced price. This was what I thought "smartpricing" was for, and if anything I should have been (and I was) smartpriced. After about two weeks of $100/day, with the same traffic it jumped down to ~$30/day. This makes perfect sense.

    The advertiser, paying at a reduced rate for the less popular spot, is still happy for the leads that they get from that advertisement.

    No matter how you spin it - I put AdSense advertiser's ads infront of 5,000-10,000 people a day. Everybody won, except google cut me out of the winnings so that they and their advertising client could win even bigger.

    And all of this aside, if they had an approval process for new sites added to an account (like virtually every other ad network), then they could have simply denied my site from their program and I would have been happy to keep their ads off of my pages. If it was more clear in their TOS that a site like mine is prohibited, I never would have mixed my site with AdSense ads in the first place.

    And if you say that the TOS is clear, just read over the thread and see the 50/50 spilt on opinions about whether or not my site violates the TOS. Clearly the Terms of Service are too ambiguous.
     
    somenamewtf, May 23, 2009 IP
  10. somenamewtf

    somenamewtf Peon

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    #50
    [first part edited out by user - I don't want to somehow piss off my new ad network]

    My best guess? Some account manager at adsense wanted to make a client happy, so they eliminated some cost on a campaign by cutting out a bunch of low-risk, low-end high earners. I'm sure I wasn't the only one who got ripped off. Maybe it's not this at all, but since google isn't talking, I will assume the worst about them.
     
    somenamewtf, May 23, 2009 IP
  11. Overheard Daily

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    #51
    Do they still owe you some money? This happened to some guy who lives near Mountain View so he took them to small claims and won.
     
    Overheard Daily, May 23, 2009 IP
  12. somenamewtf

    somenamewtf Peon

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    #52
    yes, they owe me around $3,000

    small claims isn't worth the hassle. I will just be thankful that I learned the lesson early, and I will avoid them moving forward.

    [edited by user]
     
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  14. somenamewtf

    somenamewtf Peon

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    #54
    i would prefer an explanation or a better customer exeprience over that sum of money
     
    somenamewtf, May 23, 2009 IP
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    somenamewtf Peon

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    #55
    for future reference the URLs are

    http://www.blog.streamfiend.info

    and

    http://www.startrekstreaming.info

    (since they were edited out of the previous posts)
     
    somenamewtf, May 23, 2009 IP
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    somenamewtf Peon

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    #56
    just a quick update... I'm about to file another appeal after taking adsense codes off all of my sites. I'm just going to try to get my account back.

    I chased down google contacts using hoovers.com & onesource.com, and I will start on them after the holiday.

    Let the cold calling and gatekeeper killing begin....
     
    somenamewtf, May 24, 2009 IP