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banned at $100 - is this true?

Discussion in 'Guidelines / Compliance' started by JohnZing, Aug 5, 2006.

  1. YokoOno

    YokoOno Guest

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    #21
    This is true, but only for new accounts. Google won't tell you that you are banned until you get first 100 dollars in your account and it's time to cut the check. I think this is smart, as it makes scammers wait and they get nothing.
    SEMrush
     
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  2. j_p

    j_p Peon

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    #22
    definatly a good idea. Although i have clicked my own ad by mistake (honestly!) a few times already. Im not looking forward to reaching $100 now :(
     
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    shamess Well-Known Member

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    #23
    Are you sure? Has Google released anything official saying that - just to check?
     
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  4. fendi

    fendi Peon

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    #24
    i believe that google will immediately ban you if they detect invalid click or break the TOS. i think it's just that they need time to thoroughly check whether there is invalid activity.
     
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  5. jmman

    jmman Peon

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    #25
    Well I think it's reasonably to think that, since google has to pay back all the money that were generated on banned account, they gain nothing from intentionally waiting till 100USD.

    But maybe they are doing it to virtually increase their fraud clicks detection efficiency... just a crazy thought ;)
     
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  6. Monty

    Monty Peon

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    #26
    If Google wait until $100 to ban an account, I think it's because it's take time and ressources to detect the fraud.
    They don't check and analyse accounts everyday, for each clicks, they do it once, before paying.
     
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  7. jmman

    jmman Peon

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    #27
    I know that now, when u click ur own ads those clicks doesn't even show up in adsense stats. Has it always been like that?
     
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  8. CaitSith4343

    CaitSith4343 Peon

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    #28
    Haha, I browsed through the posts in this thread to see if someone had posted this, and sure enough, it was in the last post. :)

    Anyways, yeah, I am sure that google does a little extra fraud checking before they send out your money. It would be an enormous task to do in dept fraud checking every day, so they probably just do their checking before they pay out.
     
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  9. TG2006

    TG2006 Guest

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    #29
    if this is true people could go around other peoples sites clicking on their adsense ads dozens of times daily and getting them banned from adsense.
     
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  10. chachacallis

    chachacallis Well-Known Member

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    #30
    i think they wait until you are getting paid then if your break the Tos they will ban you
     
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  11. Djrack

    Djrack Banned

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    #31
    I where banned the day i got $100..
    I sent them an eMail, but they didnt beleve what I told them (that I did not now anything about click frauding), so they banned my account, and wil not allow me to open a new one..
    MAN im mad at Google.
    I think its pretty idiotic.. They told me that they where seeing multiply clicks from the same IP lots of times, in a lot of days.. I told them I didnt know anything about this, but they still banned my account..
    I shouldnt get punnishd when some other prick is clicking my adsense ads (mabye to get me banned?), they should just take away the amount of money from my account that where taken from the advertisors when the prick clicked the ads, not delete me and tell me never to sign up again..
    Now I have to use some other program, clicksor or something, but Im a little afraid that they are going to do the same as AdSense, but if nones clicking multiply, that should be any problem..
     
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  12. fpriest

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    #32
    i think what he was venting about is that google probably finds out that you were cheating when you only earned $5 to that time... but google waits until you reach 100, and then they ban you so that you don't get the money, and the adsense advertisers kinda had free ads on your site!
     
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  13. venturefox

    venturefox Notable Member

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    #33
    Why cant they do that? You dont see them hunting you down for committing FRAUD which could hurt you a lot harder. Just because its online, it doesnt mean its not fraud - you are taking money from advertisers to line your own pockets, they pay for REAL people and REAL clicks, not someone clicking their own ads. They cant determine whether any of the clicks were valid and it all goes back to the advertisers. They have a right to protect their business, you break the TOS, you pay.
     
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  14. JohnZing

    JohnZing Peon

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    #34
    Sure, that's it! Amazing how the people miss the point... no one here is defending abusers or click fraud. They should be banned!

    What I’m saying is, if google finds click fraud in some user account, they should close the account immediately and not only when user reaches $100. I think that behavior is unacceptable.

    Imagine a policeman seeing someone comitting a crime and doing nothing, just letting them do a bigger crime so they can have a worst punishment. This is not right.

    Also, user may not be aware of the situation as I said. If he did something wrong he should pay for it, google bans is account and that’s it. Is cruel to let the guy working who knows how many months to improve his sites when google already knows is account will be closed and all his effort is useless.

    I don’t say google acts like this. I hope not!
     
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    dshah Well-Known Member

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    #35
    Its not true that google waits till you reach 100 before sending out email. However its also true that you may not get banned same day you had invalid clicks, it takes few days for it. But there is no such criteria set as you have to reach 100$ till they ban you.
     
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    #36
    What we keep telling you, is that Google don't check for click fraud every account every hours. So they ban it when they find the fraud, and in most cases, they check thoroughly the account before paying out. This is why many account are banned when they reach $100.
    Some are banned earlier if they break the TOS and are reported for instance
     
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    tokyoice Well-Known Member

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    #37
    Google will neve do this, thiis why they are so popuer nowa-days
     
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    #38
    I can say they ban when they audit your account and find the BAD activity. I can say I was banned with over $500 in my account that they never paid me. Even though I lived by the TOS they can still ban you and not have to prove you were in the wrong. I was using high quality ad Click tracking software and never had a bleep on the click fraud detection system. So yes you can be banned - EVEN IF YOU ARE NOT GUILTY.
     
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  19. RatDog

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    #39
    It's indeed possible to run legitimate ctrs in the 30% to 40% range. Several people on this forum pull numbers like that. It all depends on your site and your content. My stats have run in that range for the past 10 months. If the clicks are legitimate, there's no problem. G knows what they are doing. :)
     
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  20. richdadmoney

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    #40
    im not looking forward to earning my first $100.
     
    richdadmoney, Aug 7, 2006 IP