Bad Day at Google

Discussion in 'SEO' started by Will.Spencer, May 21, 2005.

  1. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #41
    My site is still in hell. I am still not terribly worried, because the keywords which I am competing for are mostly non-competitive and I can just register a new domain name and start over.

    I discovered just now that I still win the allinanchor: searches for my keywords.

    This causes me to wonder... can a site that is over a year old be thrown back into the sandbox?

    The other sites which have been reported to be experiencing this same phenomena are all over a year old.
     
    Will.Spencer, May 26, 2005 IP
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    #42
    Mine included... two and a half years old PR6 site with 15,000 backlinks showing in Google to the home page alone. Overall traffic and earnings are down by 60%, but we're not too worried... just focussing effort on other projects while the situation on the main site improves.
     
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  3. Will.Spencer

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    #43
    PR6 here too... and everyone else hit reports PR5 or better...
     
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    #44
    I would undoubtably say yes....
     
    SEbasic, May 27, 2005 IP
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    #45
    Just to poke my head in here... I'm only showing one keyword in the red today and it is in the coop. (obviously, I have a much smaller list than a lot of people here, but still...)

    It's only a drop by two, and my other co-op ads are showing the same results as usual.
     
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  6. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #46
    I have partially solved one small part of my own tiny little section of the Bourbon disaster^h^h^h^h^h^h^h^hupdate.

    Consider these two sets of keywords:

    01. SIDH
    02. IS-136
    03. IS-95
    04. HSCSD
    05. PDC-P
    06. MTSO
    07. TKIP
    08. CDPD
    09. MMDS
    10. RCE

    01. System Identification for Home System
    02. TDMA
    03. CDMA
    04. High Speed Circuit Switched Data
    05. Packet Data Cellular
    06. Mobile Telephone Switching Office
    07. Temporal Key Integrity Protocol
    08. Cellular Digital Packet Data
    09. Multichannel Multipoint Distribution Service
    10. Regional Coding Enhancement

    I was doing very well for all of these keywords before the Bourbon update.

    After the Bourbon update, I am still doing quite well for the first set of keywords, but I have been completely hammered for the second set of keywords.

    Why is this relevant? These are the same pages on both lists. Both keywords are in the title, the h1 text, the anchor text, and the body text.

    Now... what is the difference between the two lists?

    1. The first list exists earlier in the title, filename, and h1 tag than the second list.

    I don't believe this because of this case:

    The keyword "NAMPS" was not penalized on the page "What are AMPS (EIA/TIA-553) and NAMPS (IS-91)?"

    2. The keywords in the second list are all in parentheses.

    OK, that sounds crazy, but it fits the available data.

    Removing the parenthesis from all of these pages would be a possible test.

    3. Google has screwed-up^h^h^h^h^h^d^d^d^d^dchanged the way it conducts multi-word searches.

    That one is significantly more difficult to evaluate.

    It also does not match the "TDMA" and "CDMA" cases.

    However, it remains a daunting possibility.

    4. Something I haven't thought of yet...
     
    Will.Spencer, May 29, 2005 IP
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    Padawan Peon

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    #47
    I didn't know of this command - does allinanchor give a good idea of where a key phrase would rank if the site wasn't sandboxed then, because if it does, I'm quite excited!? :)
     
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    #48
    Yeah, Google's 'Bourbon' update as it's being called, for obvious reasons.
     
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  9. Will.Spencer

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    #49
    allinanchor: searches anchor text.

    The general SEO rumor mill says that if your site does well in allinanchor: searches but not well in normal Google searches, it is a sign that your site is in the sandbox.
     
    Will.Spencer, May 30, 2005 IP
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    #50
    GoogleGuy posted that reinclusion requests would be processed this weekend on Monday...
     
    Will.Spencer, Jun 4, 2005 IP
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    #51
    i get similar screens to you will
    nut it seems to only last a day

    Can i say you look extemely like David Brent out of The Office

    no offence, he's a top guy
     
    zanet, Jun 6, 2005 IP
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    #52
    Looks like a glitch. That happened on my end as well but I checked on google and my ranks were fine.
     
    Yukio, Jun 6, 2005 IP
  13. Will.Spencer

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    #53
    A couple of recent developments:

    1. chachi's discovery of 301 problems caused me to finally notice that the current site name and the previous site name have somehow become split into two different sites in the Google index. They have been treated as one site for about a year now. The result is that I lost a lot of backlinks. I sent a note to Google asking them to reconnect the two sites.

    2. I moved the content to a mirror site and the mirror finally got into the SERPS. The mirror now ranks reasonably well. So who cares so much that the site is in hell?

    This points to this part of Bourbon being about off-page factors.
     
    Will.Spencer, Jun 10, 2005 IP