I don't think how many backlinks you have its the quality backlinks they have. I just recenly came across a joke site that was up for sale for 125,000 dollars. Out of couriesty i checked his back links only 13 and a google page one and had a excellent alexa rankings Which changed my thinking of building all the backlinks I could get.
That is exactly correct. In some niches with low volume search competion you can rank with a handful of PR5 and PR6 links. It's always been QUALITY not QUANTITY!
Do you think i would be as well starting a new site if this one has been penalised for these link farm/directory links? I had previously asked advice on here and trhe general concensus was that pr0 links werent "bad" but just werent good. But im starting to think some of them can be bad, because it seems thats whats happened here. But at the same time, i was only really checking the links to some of my highly ranked competitors and trying to copy their links. I think whatever has happened the site has obviously been penalized, prob due to some of the cheap directory submission services ive bought. Might just get a new domain and start again.... Or will this one recover??
@ITCN - You cannot be 'penalized' for inbound links. If he is linking back to those 'bad neighborhoods' then yes, you can be penalized. I would clean out any reciprocal links to these places, and let the site 'heal' on its own.
Thanks dodger, i have cleaned out alot of my outbound links, removed all the rubbishy ones. Do you do you think the site will recover in time?
well don't give up your day job that easily. Untill and unless you have stable income coming in. Rest I'd agree quality and quantity counts. if you are getting relevant links then the number won't matter but if you are getting crappy links then that could even get your site banned.
In time for what? I never had that type of problem. So you are asking the wrong guy when it comes to some type of time-table. All I know is that your pages are being indexed properly, and it is not like your site is banned or anything. Avoid doing any knee-jerk radical decisions. You have a blog. Keep blogging and commenting. Interact with other lotto blogs (reputable, if that is possible) out there. Be careful of who you link to. I am sure, given time, that you will start pulling out of your slump. Just keep on, keeping on.
Again? Why do people keep saying that getting crappy links will get your site banned. If that were even possible, it would be easy to hand out crappy links to your competitors. Crappy inbound links will NOT get your site banned.
Google is pretty damn wise these days when it comes to knowing the difference between naturally occurring backlinks versus dot-it-yourself link building. That site may be flagged
You are absolutely correct and I should have specified further that by "bad neighborhood" I mean reciprocal linking to these spammy directories. You can't be put into what google calls a bad neighorhood just by inbound links - you have to actually participate "in the hood", as it were.
Oh yeah? Why so? Last I checked, thousands of links can tip the scale. And quality is a relative term. What do you consider 'quality' to be. Is it a high PR page or is it a page from an authoritative source? Remember, quality is in the eye of the beholder. Don't get me wrong, but I just want people to explain their thought process on statements like this. If they only put them out there for the link in their sigline, then at least tell us that is the only reason you are here.
So for a newbie starting out concentrate on good quality relevant links? Whats the best process for getting good site to link to you?
Comparing 800 to 100 links is somewhat meaningless uness you're certain that each link is equivalent in value.