Back links update

Greetings
I was wondering when will Google update back links. I understand that PR are updated rarely but backlinks are vital for the ad network.
I've been using the network for a 10 days but my backlinks number is till the same. How much time must I wait for Google to update them?
I'm spending a lot of time to gather links outside the network too and I would like to see the result of my work.
Thanks in advance

 

Nobody knows when Google will do an update, the last one wasn't that long ago.

Try to do a link:www.yourdomain.com query on beta.search.msn.com

They seem to be updating daily and show a lot of links. You can also specify -site:www.yourdomain.com to get only outside links to show.

 

The links should go into effect even though the link count stays the same, doesn't it?

 

yes, ramsus.

it'll take a LOT longer than 10 days for google to show your links (although they'll count in the serps before that). I suggest using the msn beta to check before then..

 

My question is if they count also for the network or not. I think not, as the coop relies on the back links google sees. Anyway it is good to hear that at least they count for the serp

 

My understanding was that it relies on the site: command and not the link: command.

 

Site: command is for total crawled internal pages and not for back links....
Another doubt of mine is: Is the number of pages one shows ads on equal to the my site pages google is aware of?
I have few physical pages because I have search pages which generate varying contents. If I show the ads on my search.asp page and Google is aware of pages like search.asp?id=23 and search.asp?id=24, Do the ad network count them as 1 page or 2?
Thanks

 

they'd be count as two (or three, or four, etc...) if google actually has that url in the index. if it has search.asp?id=23 in the index, that's the page. if it has 500 of those in the index, then that's 500 pages.

regarding the google backlinks:

google VERY rarely updates their backlinks (and when they do they aren't consistant)... they count internally as backlinks, we're sure of that, because we can see it in the search results long long before an update

 

Correct, which is why it is the site: command that calculates your weight. Weight is based on the number of pages that exist according to Google. The link: command only tells you how much you may have benefited FROM that weight.

If Google sees two pages, you get the weight of two pages

 

Absoultely so, but from what I understand the weight is dependent on how any of your pages Google is aware of.

I guess it is 1 page. It's teh same thing with most forums. Urls are dynamic and when the parameter changes it is considered as a new page and as long as it is indexed by Google it is a different page.

That's just what I think as far as the Coop network goes, since I just signed up for it myself.

 

So a consequent question is: If I have a database with thousands of items and a search page that connects to it, How can I make Google index them???
In theory I should have thousands of pages indexed but I have not even 1% of them. I can imagine one solution would be other sites linking to a certain search.asp?id=xxx so that that search.asp?id=xxx page would be indexed.
Any other suggestions?

 

That would be the way to do it. Withou links pointing to a page, you won't get indexed.