Azoogle Problem With International Traffic

Discussion in 'Affiliate Programs' started by imca, Feb 12, 2007.

  1. #1
    I am having a problem with the conversions from Adwords to Azoogle because of "international traffic."

    What I did:
    1. Set up a campaign in Adwords just for Azoogle and made the United States the ONLY country in my target audience.
    2. Sent traffic to a US Only Azoogle program (there aren't many for international traffic).

    The problem:
    Azoogle redirects my traffic to an international landing page a high % of the time (today it was 144 / 165 clicks!!) where the landing page is something totally unrelated to my traffic and doesn't convert.

    Source of the problem
    1. Adwords is sending international traffic through a US only campaign
    OR 2. Azoogle is counting US traffic international and redirecting it to a place where I don't make any money.

    My Action
    1. I called Azooogle. My rep said they would "look into it" and get back to me.
    2. I called Adwords. They said they don't track the IP addresses and need data to fix the problem.

    Interesting point: The Adwords rep said that if I targeted the ads towards a US market, international traffic would still go through my campaign even if someone searched from another country. In my case, I didn't say "American" or "United States" in my ads so he said that probably wasn't the case.

    My Question for Readers
    Has anyone else had this problem? What did you do? What should I do? Any insight?
     
    imca, Feb 12, 2007 IP
  2. Shoemoney

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    #2
    make sure you do your own geotargeting and dont rely on a 3rd party. That is what I do.

    Also you can submit your "invalid" click report to adword and get reimbursed. I you do not collect the data yourself then... lesson learned
     
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  3. imca

    imca Peon

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    Thanks Shoemoney. Interesting. So in this case since I'm pointing the traffic to a 3rd party, would you instead direct to a page of your own and have that page redirect to the affiliate link?
     
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  4. Shoemoney

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    ya if you have the ability to... you always want the data.
     
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  5. AlexAzoogle

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    imca,

    144 clicks out of 165 being international is a very HIGH percentage.

    Are you sure you didn't do the reverse of what you're trying to achieve? (ie, NOT send US traffic to the offer and EXCLUDE US citizens rather than allowing them?)

    THanks.
     
    AlexAzoogle, Feb 12, 2007 IP
  6. Shoemoney

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    btw adwords will never help you... you ALWAYS need to give them the data then you will be refunded.
     
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  7. xboxundone

    xboxundone Well-Known Member

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    WOW if you did set it up correctly that is surprising to me, as G does the best job to filter users while not 100% correct but usually a low percentage is foriegn.. but those percents do ad up when your spending $$$$$$ so it is worth while to track the information on your end.
     
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  8. imca

    imca Peon

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    Yeah, I'm sure.

    "Important Notices Offer Pays on US Leads only"

    The thing is I am normally good as far as stats go. I have google analytics running and then awstats on my server for all my sites. With Azoogle though I have no idea where the traffic is from because it lands on someone else's server, and hence I don't know how to track it (beyond possibly what I said earlier? ADWORDS -> my server --redirect--> affiliate. But will that even show up on my end?)

    Shoe, Yeah, They don't really help at all without me supplying the data (which Azoogle hopefully will give me) You'd think they would know though... being Google and all.
     
    imca, Feb 12, 2007 IP
  9. aeiouy

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    In my experience Adwords is one of the best in not letting international traffic, them and MSN. Yahoo you see it frequently and 2nd and 3rd tier engines a lot.

    If something like that is happening with Google traffic, my first reaction would be to re-check everything in adwords with a fine tooth comb.

    Sure the ad could be broken with azoogle, but can you bring it up yourself?
     
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  10. imca

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    I checked everything five times over, especially since I plowed through my daily budget and was a little worried about increasing it for fear it would burn more cash. I ended up getting back an interesting and fairly disappointing email from Adwords basically saying that even though I have United States selected it doesn't really matter if the traffic came from google.com.
     
    imca, Feb 12, 2007 IP
  11. marcowitsch

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    That happened to me lately too, not THAT high % but more than usual trough Adwords... I dont track anything right now in Terms of Visitor country etc. but I saw an increase in international Adwords traffic too...
     
    marcowitsch, Feb 13, 2007 IP
  12. imca

    imca Peon

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    I must say, the extremely high % came from just one keyword and when I called adwords yesterday he said he would look into it and send me an email. He didn't send the email, so I really can't get back to him, but he did seem concerned about the high % from this one keyword and said he would "look into it." I had been getting a high % of international traffic beyond this keyword but closer to 15-20%, not 85%. I deleted the keyword in question, changed to the odd setting the Adwords email told me to, and lowered my bid on that ad group overall. So far, so good.
     
    imca, Feb 13, 2007 IP
  13. jessecooper

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    #13
    yes stats are king!
     
    jessecooper, Feb 16, 2007 IP