Thanks for clearing up a few things rochow: if that's the case then you've done all you reasonably could to honor these advertisers links. It'd be nice if footodors had the bottle to come on here and explain from his point of view. Somehow, I don't think that's going to happen!
He/She has dodged my PM's. I emailed everyone who subscribed to tell them the situation and give the facts I would have cleared things up early, its 4am though and I was asleep EDIT: Thanks .Cyanide.... I HAD perfect iTrader until Papaman put a red one for removing his link... hmm... Atleast I won't be an asshole and Red him
If it where me i would be angry that he wreaked your record because you did nothing wrong... although some good hacking skill would be good to edit the site with everyones links back in it did he talk to you before he left you red?
Its unfortunate about happend, i dont think rochow could have done anything else to protect his clients other than not sell, but if you have to sell what else can be done Footodors seems like a bit of a chump to me, for showing no regard for people who have paid money for a listing, its seems from what rochow has said that they had an agreement to keep the listings until they expired, which as soon as he took ownership of the domain he turned his back , plus unless he got a good plan for the site up his sleeve looks like its going to waste - blank page when a week ago it was sendin good traffic to a lot of happy proxy owners
Yes, he did. Basically stating I didn't take enough action to prevent this, therefore it is my fault and not the person who actually removed the links and broke the deal. I am angry about it, I wake up and there is this thread where I am being torn to pieces and being given red iTrader's. This I actually laughed at. Can everyone here honestly say that they have never sold a site which had some links on it which had to stay (link exchanges, link sales) unless the new owner negotiated with the person who they link exchanged with or bought a link? I have no idea what he has done with the site. It was practically perfect now its blank with just Google Ads and no content. Maybe he should be reported to Google for breaking their TOS... EDIT: Marx I wish I hadn't sold the site so early and you had gotten it instead!
you have to kind of expect that i guess. once money is sent then the owner can do whatever he wants.. although you think he would make more money if he just used the look that he purchased..
Its PR5 now aswell Like I said and lots of people knew, I loved the site, but at the end of the day I needed money so I sold both awesomeproxies and penguinproxy
Yes. He is not going to make money with a blank page with some google ads. Even it is PR5 now (damn, damn!) I sold the site to him on the condition he honoured the pre-existing agreements. I was not looking for the highest bidder, but one I thought would keep the site going well, maybe even improve a little. That's why I sold it early, I thought I had found that person and there was no need to continue the auction. Turns out I was completely wrong about footodors
I work with Rochow and he is an honorable individual. Above all he has posted in this thread and came clean with his side of the story. From the lack of even a defense of the new owner it is obvious he is hiding in shame, and has nothign to say in his defence. Rochow is not at fault here, it is the new owner's responsibility to uphold any contracts that were established prior to the sale.
Rochow is definitely not to blame with this story. He is a honorable guy and has kept his promise, and contacted the new owner explaining about the deal that me and Rochow had. The new owner did pay me a refund for the money part of the deal, and the other part was paid back by Rochow. To Papaman, please, be careful from now on NOT to ruin the reputation of people on the Forums, or online, because if it is done carelessly and in a whim it could do more harm than good. Think twice next time, and take a breath before you push the button and give a "negative" itrader also. Rochow did not deserve it according to many of us here. Thank you
Heres the bottom line As was mentioned earlier new ownership assumes any contractual obligation the business has in existence at time of purchase unless negotiated otherwise . I bought links from Matt Rochow and they were placed immediately, and as was agreed. I received notice the other day my subscription had been canceled. The new owner canceled the contract without notice. Poor way of doing business.
I cancelled the subscription because otherwise I would recieve the payments, not the new owner. He was going to email everyone, inform them of the ownership change, give 1 month free for the inconvenience, then get everyone to resubscribe using his paypal. He told me this via PM not long after the sale. It was the subscription that was cancelled. This does not mean the link should be removed, as a month's fee had been paid. It just means you will not pay money to me next month (as I am no longer the owner) Hope that makes sense
I don't believe you guys! you are saying that all this is not Rochow's fault?! So he pleased the new owner to keep the links for 1 more month and he believed that he will keep his promises?! This is monkey business man! How do you expect from someone, without a signed paper, to keep his promises? What would I do if I was Rochow: 1. Stop selling links. 2. Wait UNTIL the ads are fully delivered. 3. Sell the freaking site. 4. Realize that now has got PR5 and commit suicide! This is good business man! Be reliable with your clients! Footodor might be what he is, but you started all the mess. Why I must deal with the new owner? It's your responsibility before you sell the site to be reliable with YOUR clients. Now tell me Rochow, on what excuse you will red me? Did I maybe stole your precious $5? (it's not about the money of course) Am I not a reliable internet entrepreneur? No man, I sold and bought many things on-line and no one complained. It's "He" man, and I also have a good reputation around here. As a bottom line I'd like to say that I have no other problem with Rochow. He might be as good as you say guys, but here he made a mistake and he is not accepting it like a real businessman. I'm in the Internet business nine years now and I'm very reliable and honest with my clients.
I think Rochow IS definitely the one to blame man! He first sold the site without any notice. I suddenly got an email saying my subscription is canceled and after a couple of days I accidentally saw the site is sold. As I said before, Rochow might be a good seller/buyer, but here he made a mistake and he must accept it. Also, I'm not the only one that has complained about him. I suppose the others said "what the hick, it's only $1". What if we paid $500 for that!
Papaman look at it from this point of view. You operate an apartment building, you sell the building to a guy that promises to give everyone a free months stay for inconveniance of setting everything up with a new owner. Then 3 days after the sale everyone gets an eviction notice that says they must move out. Who is to blame here? If the old owner would have waited till everyone moved out of the apartment before selling, he would have gone broke. And it is out of the old owners control to make sure everyone has a place to live. The new owner is to blame. It seams to me that everyone that posted feedback on this fourm except you agree with my line of thinking. I can't help but assume that you have some alternat motive in voicing out your opinion, perhaps you and the new owner have a closer relationship then you might want to admit? Just speculating, but seems like your definately outnumbered in terms of who's to blame.
I purchased a link before site was sold and I got refunded extra money by the new owner over a day ago for the inconvenience.