Avoid getting ripped off when paying with Paypal

Discussion in 'Legal Issues' started by Abbadox, Apr 20, 2006.

  1. Selkirk

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    #21
    I wonder how many people don't learn about the tangible goods distinction until they get ripped off?
     
    Selkirk, Apr 25, 2006 IP
  2. Mr Crow

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    #22
    Abbodox

    Any results so far from what we discussed?
     
    Mr Crow, Apr 25, 2006 IP
  3. webbie

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    #23
    moneybookers provide inexpensive escrow service
     
    webbie, Apr 25, 2006 IP
  4. Mr Crow

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    #24
    can you tell me more about moneybookers , I am not so familiar with their service
     
    Mr Crow, Apr 25, 2006 IP
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    #25
    great idea i recommend this !!
     
    Jelf, Apr 25, 2006 IP
  6. pgiddy

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    #26
    If the purchase was funded with a credit card, you can apply for a chargeback with the CC issuer. You still retain your CC chargeback rights when you use Paypal, regardless of what they will have you believe.

    If the purchase was funded with a bank account or Paypal balance, you are out of luck.

    Paypal is very dangerous for transactions over $1000. In the future, consider Escrow.com or a third-party domain broker escrow such as Afternic.

    Paypal NEVER offers more than the standard buyer protection plan (which is up to $1000 assuming it is a tangible item and the seller is Verified, etc), so if they offered you an amazing 50% of what you paid, you have to KNOW you're able to get your money back some other way and they want to settle. If you win a chargeback with your CC and the seller's PP account is empty (sounds like it is), PP is left with the bill. That's why they want to settle.

    Now, hopefully your client used a CC. Tell him to go file a chargeback.
     
    pgiddy, Apr 25, 2006 IP
  7. Mr Crow

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    #27
    I wonder if Googles payment system they are launching will be good?
     
    Mr Crow, Apr 25, 2006 IP
  8. Abbadox

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    #28
    Yes I was able to get my clients money back by going through the credit card company, I just wanted to try paypal to see how they would respond, I have heard many a horror story about them so I wanted to see myself just how it would go.



    Thing to remember... Always use escrow if you can!!!!
     
    Abbadox, Apr 26, 2006 IP
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    #29
    it is so weird that...whenever you are

    - a buyer, you file a dispute... seller wins because it is intangible goods...
    - a seller, buyer files a dispute.... buyer wins because it is intangible goods...

    i always thought that paypal favours the buyer... in your case, you are the buyer... why you didnt win the case since it is intangible goods that seller cant proof that he sent you the stuff.

    in my case, there has been 5 disputes, i am the seller of websites/services, and buyer files a dispute... buyer won.. i lose. reason is, intangible goods.
     
    pelican, Apr 27, 2006 IP