Autopsy reveals total of 30 bullets in bodies of nine protesters

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  1. iggysick

    iggysick Guest

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    #21
    So you were there and you know 100% for sure? I doubt that but they also didn't asked for permission and that was first official claim and repeated by chaostrivia like it was 100% true fact. And it wasn't and that was confirmed by one of commandos that did fired.
     
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  2. gauharjk

    gauharjk Notable Member

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    #22
    Its called the Hasbara machine. Its designed to spread propaganda on behalf of israel to defend its war crimes and human rights violations and spin everything for the western audience.
     
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    samser_m Well-Known Member

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    #23
    even some people knows what you are doing right now at home as they are fully packed with wisdom and knowledge. lol
     
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    Ibn Juferi Prominent Member

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    #25
    [video=youtube;L9puvdPu2Do]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9puvdPu2Do[/video]

    Witness testimony on Israel's brutal terrorism on the aid flotilla.
     
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    #26
    Actually it isn't. The whole event is filmed by IDF and if that review is a pretty good as you say it is IDF would already released vids. And IDF only released edited clips, very short and only to support "pretty good reviews" as this one.
    The same newspaper published another article when one of commados said that he started shooting right after he landed and saw 20 people attacking him. No permission asked.

    Another thing, we saw clip when soldiers got thrown from top deck of boat and this "good review" told us that event trigered shooting. Why did they stop clip at that point than?
     
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    samser_m Well-Known Member

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    #27
    [video=youtube;gAuz6HoqV4g]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAuz6HoqV4g&feature=player_embedded[/video]
     
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    gauharjk Notable Member

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    #28
    Autopsy Shows Israel Executed Wounded

     
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  9. Will.Spencer

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    #29
    gauharjk:

    As per usual, your source doesn't include any data to support his headline. He also claims to have read an article in Haaretz which he does not link to and I can not find.

    Reading his vitriolic rant, I can only conclude that he is suffering from severe emotional issues. He uses data which appear to be completely manufactured from his own psyche to support his message of hate.

    Stick to the facts, you're making yourself look like a complete idiot.
     
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    #30
    Ah you mean like when you claimed that they didn't kill anyone because there was shooting going on around them right?
    Or when you claimed that the soldeirs asked for permission before they started to shoot right?
    Those are facts and don't make you a compelete idot LOL
     
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  11. gauharjk

    gauharjk Notable Member

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    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #32
    Are you implying they indiscriminately opened fire on the other 5 ships? If so, could you produce evidence? Is anyone else even claiming this? If they didn't indiscriminately open fire on the other five, why would they do so, as you claim on the one?
     
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    #33
    Nope. I don't claim that they indiscriminately opened fire and I don't believe anything like that happened. They send soldiers and that was fuck up. Soldeirs are not trained and equiped to deal with those kind of violence. Politicians made that decision and didn't even wanted to hear what military have to say about it: Report: IDF reps were banned from pre-raid discussions
     
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    #34
    Of course we know this isn't true, because we have video of what really happened.

    But truth doesn't seem to interest you much. :p
     
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    #35
    Progress! Ok, so they didn't indiscriminately open fire in a blood thirsty rage. The people on the boat were extemely violent and the soldiers were not trained to deal with, or even expecting that type of violence. Now that you have all the pieces in place, you just need to take that small extra step to hold the instigators of the violence accountable for their own actions. You've already labeled the people on the boat as the instigators, so it shouldn't be too tough.
     
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    #36
    Actually the real story is cleared in this video care to watch and listen?

    [video=youtube;EZa5ujFrgJc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZa5ujFrgJc[/video]
     
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    #37
    Thanks, but we're already chatting about those loonies in the Leaving Islam thread.

    [​IMG]
     
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    #38
    Answer me honestly: if such thing happen somewere around Iran and Iranian soldiers shot to death 9 (americans, just for example) activists (violent!) who would you blame?
    I put all blame on Israeli politicians. Too bad they will not pay any price, not even in number of votes they receive.
     
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    #39
    Like the kids "hiking" on the Iranian border? Had they attacked the Iranian soldiers, you and I both know they would have been shot, and very few people outside of their parents would have shed a tear. As it is, I don't feel a lot of solidarity with people so stupid even if they are Americans. Intelligent people don't go hiking on the borders of Iran unless they are willing to discover what a brutal regime does to people they can accuse of being spies. Intelligent people don't ram military blockades and attack the soldiers who board their boat unless they are willing to face deadly force.

    What confuses me are people like you who throw out analogies like the one in the post I just responded to. Did you really expect to find a double standard? Really? To me, your post falls more in line with the others that focus on the "American ex-marine" on that boat, or the Jews in Israel who protest the occupation. We've got more than a few Americans who think Hitler was a great guy(your friends on this forum have posted David Duke more than once). Just because some American, or Jew, or Westerner says something doesn't make it play any better with the people over here.

    One last point. If it had been the US navy enforcing that blockade, I STRONGLY suspect the boat the boat would have been sunk when it refused to stop. Another possible outcome includes the raking of the deck with a 50 cal, which would have killed more than 9 people. I've got a few friends who are navy and coast guard. Interdiction and boarding of vessels at sea is a daily activity and they don't mess around. The safety of our service men is a high priority, and when the situation threatens to become violent, it isn't treated as a "protest" at sea.
     
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    #40
    No Navy in the world had the tight to interdict a vessel in International waters. It is plain and simple Piracy.
     
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