Automatic Directory Submission is a Waste of Time

Discussion in 'Directories' started by jennypretty, Jan 4, 2009.

  1. #1
    Hello,

    Do you think Automatic Directory Submission is a Waste of Time?

    I paid for a few times on directory submission guys. They said they 'd use manual submission method but I think they used automatic software to submit to about 500 directories. Their work was done fast.

    After about 3 weeks of submission, my site got indexed on google for some keywords. However, these keywords were not indexed after few weeks later and even got worse than before submission.

    My question is "does it hurt my site ranking if we submitted too many directories in a short time?"

    Is automatic directory submission waste of time?

    Thanks very much for reading.
     
    jennypretty, Jan 4, 2009 IP
  2. Amator

    Amator Well-Known Member

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    How old is your site ? If it is new it will show at the top of google at first but then it will drop.
    The best is to wait and keep building backlinks.
     
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  3. seo.Palmer

    seo.Palmer Banned

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    #3
    directory submission isn't pure wastage I think the problem is that too many guys are now doing and everyone seems to have the same list of directories ...

    so many links to be added are in pending thats why it takes long for a site to get links from those directories and get added in search engine.
     
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  4. DonPedro

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    #4
    take your time, maybe 1-2 weeks tops
    make your own list of directories, and start ranking them acording to PR, backlinks, number of indexed pages, see if main and subcategories also have PR, do a search arround the links already there, see what kind of links is the owner accepting ( look for pr0n, casino, warez, etc ).
    You will be better off submitting to a few of those, than doing bulk submissions .
     
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  5. zexy

    zexy Guest

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    #5
    Submitting your site to 500 directories won't hurt at all no matter how fast you're doing it.

    First because your submission won't be approved right away (if approved at all).
    Second Google won't let your competitor bring you down by just submiting your site to directories ;)

    Automatic submissions is not a waste of time if you software / script works fine.
    If you worry so much why not use some semi-automatic tool like digiXMAS Directory Submitter?
     
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  6. Shellerz

    Shellerz Active Member

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    If google sees that your submissions are done by auto software or a bot then I beleive that you could get a ranking drop
     
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  7. liamkincaid

    liamkincaid Member

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    #7
    i prefer manual submission
     
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  8. WallaceYeung

    WallaceYeung Notable Member

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    #8
    only know google will/can find these site and deindex them some day.
     
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    jitendraag Notable Member

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    #9
    As much as I agree that automated directory submissions are bad, I would recommend that you wait for atleast 45 days before you can expect any visible movement for keywords with competition. You can't expect to rank for 'webmaster forum' or similar keyword with 500 directory submissions.
     
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  10. Obelia

    Obelia Notable Member

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    #10
    What proof do you have, other than the work was done fast? It may well have been outsourced to several people, and they most likely used form-fillers to speed up their work. That's common practice.

    You should track your results initially through the email responses you get rather than rankings, because directory submission will take a while to have a noticeable effect on rankings. I'm assuming you provided them with a temporary email address to do your submissions with. That's something a clued-up submission service will ask you for, and it will give you a way to check your results.

    500 submissions usually means they're using the Vilesilencer lists. Directories on those lists are usually very busy, so don't expect quick results.
     
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  11. geckoseo

    geckoseo Peon

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    #11
    Better to manual submission is most effective results.
     
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  12. Roger_Silvester

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    #12
    I'd also prefer to make manual submissions rather than automatic directory submissions. Following area a few limitations that these softwares have:
    1) The number of directories is limited to specific scripts for eg: phpld etc.
    2) If the field format is changed the autofill feature fails to work.
    3) For softwares that do not allow auto-update or manual addition of directories, it becomes useless after some time as most directories either turn paid or die.

    Manual directory submissions does take time and efforts but are also fruitful for a longer period of time.

    Regards
     
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  13. ciplseo

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    #13
    I prefer Manually submission.
    Manually submission is better for Auto Submission.
     
    ciplseo, Jan 6, 2009 IP
  14. Nima

    Nima Well-Known Member

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    they are certainly not as useful they used to be,.

    If you find 5 really good directories and submit to them , they can have very large effect on your rankings though. however that will cost you around $400.
     
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    syted Notable Member

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    #15
    It's probably not a waste of time but it may be a waste of money. I prefer to submit to directories as I come across them. There's many good sites you can find by diligent searching. I don't like the thought of a third party submitting my site to directories which may be spammy.
     
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  16. Raheel Khan

    Raheel Khan Banned

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    #16
    It is not waste of time but submission to only 1000 directories is best practice as in other case people who perform submission gather lists from various source and mostly these are duplicated.
     
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  17. night_fall

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    #17
    In my opinion it depends on how you submit to theses directories.

    First if you want to automate the process for shooting to 10 000 directory this is very bad.

    Second if you shoot to more than 50 directories with the same Description and Site Title that make the content not unique and it's a semi-waste of time.
    Why semi-waste i hear: because theses directories can get some traffic itself but not from search engines.

    Third: The submission is alway random, i mean that directories can accept or reject in a certain period of time. And this time nobody will know exactly how it is.

    Fourth: Some directories can reject your application. And it depends of the website submited ( again random possibilities )


    So now the answer of the first question: Automatic directories Submission is a waste of effort if you don't have the possibilities to check if in a directory something have change to give you certain error on that submission.

    If you have a checkback option ( and never view this kind of option ) Automatic-Directories can be done but with caution.
    Caution to all four point below, that have to be checked too in manual directory submission.

    Hope this info will be helpful for you :)
     
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  18. zexy

    zexy Guest

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    Excel --> Remove Duplicates might help ;)
     
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  19. phpwnes

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    the problem is if a directory is considered a link farm by google and your site is in it it can hurt the link juice more rather then increasing it, and some directories are just so big that the page that your site is the deep link might never be indexed by googleso t would be a waste, thats why its better to do it manual and check each directory to see if its worth submitting to
     
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  20. jerry751987

    jerry751987 Banned

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    Yes dude automatic submission on directory is the wastage of time we all have to submit our site's links manually it take time but dont mind carry on manually
     
    jerry751987, Jan 9, 2009 IP