Amen to that! It amazes me that a lot of people have time to come to message boards and complain (whine?) non-stop about something they can't control. Treat a Dmoz listing as a bonus: If your site gets listed then that's an extra FREE treat for your site, if it doesn't, then you didn't pay for anything - and you move on! Creating a decent-looking (not amateurish) website and selling products that people want is what will make your business thrive, not a Dmoz listing - that should be far down the list of your priorities. If someone thinks a Dmoz listing will help their site/business, then their site/business probably has more problems than they're willing to admit. Get to the root cause of your business not thriving, instead of blaming a directory, because if you eventually get listed in the directory, then the problems with your business will still exist. Dmoz is just an easy target for angry people, IMO. BTW, I have sites that are waiting for inclusion in Dmoz. If they get listed, then great, but I'm not going to wait around and whine about them not being listed quickly enough (to my satisfaction, of course). Waiting and complaining is a waste of time that could easily be spent working on marketing your site and selling your products. Yeah, chalk that up to a "generic" response from a Dmoz editor (who only speaks for himself) and deny the truth all you want. But, you honestly have to ask yourselves if Dmoz is worth the anger and stress. Just don't put so much emphasis on a Dmoz listing. It's not worth the worrying and anger - and some people come off as very angry individuals. Life is great. BTW, I don't care if I get flamed for my comments and called an "arrogant Dmoz editor" or whatever name-calling the SEO-type uses in an immature fashion when they refuse to acknowledge the truth. I don't waste too much time on message boards like this - especially with fighting the Dmoz-hating trolls. FYI, I find a lot of good websites from other forums. Usually they are in signatures, or I’ll ask for some good websites on a certain topic. You’ll be surprised that when you least expect it a Dmoz listing will come about. That’s my two cents.
Already done. It is funny that you have to register and post this nonsense while advising others not to care. Is it getting hot in DMOZ?
I'm afraid you have substantially overpriced yourself there, Enigma. And there's really nothing enigmatic about you or your post by the way. Thanks for sharing, though.
But, if I cared, then I'd come here every day and post angrily...never mind, some people already beat me to it! I guess you can lead a horse to water... FYI, I registered, not because of the Dmoz portion of the forum, don't kid yourself, but because I think DP might be a good place to post - I am registered with several webmaster forums, btw - none of them have a Dmoz forum. .
Geez, minstrel, BTW, your name reminds me of menstruation(!), thanks for taking the time and pointing out that you're dumb. But, I can usually figure that out by people's responses. Instead of arguing the point, they call names - especially when they're losing the battle. But, don't worry, you're cute little picture doesn't bother me any, I'm pretty content with my education.
What was your point? I might have missed it since you've done nothing but name-call me since your first response. Or, maybe it's that you really don’t have a point? So far you've proven my point about the Dmoz-hating immaturity that goes on in these types of forums with your posting of the picture. But, I shouldn't be surprised that you "found the time" to look for it or to create it yourself. BTW, if that's your picture in your avatar, then immature doesn't come close to describing your behavior on the forums - sorry, but I must say it - you're a little too old to act this way.
Once again, let me say thank you for dropping by and sharing your wealth of knowledge with us, enigma. It's been a slice.
Well, thank you Minstrel. Now, I could be very immature and start calling you "menstruation," but since I have a heart (it's hard to come by on some forums), I'd rather call people by names they wish to be called. BTW, I don't think I'm just "dropping" by. As I've said earlier, I registered because I think DP might be a good place to post - the other parts of the forum. BTW, I'm very upset with your making a joke of child molestation on another thread, but sometimes it's better to not respond angrily. But, I will just take this opportunity to say that child molestation is NOTHING to joke about because it ruins people's lives. But, one thing we agree on, if nothing else, is that we're both happy that Dmoz has taken a tougher stand on sites that promote it. Your wisdom and knowledge has been a slice, too.
So this is nothing to joke about but you had no problem with listing pedophile sites and supporting it. I didn't notice you making any posting against it while DMOZ was trying every trick in the book to keep those listings.
I am sincerely sorry to hear that. I wasn't joking about child molesting - read that thread and my other comments on the subject here and on my blog and elsewhere - what I was doing was making a sarcastic comment about DMOZ. And let's be honest here - THAT is the part that upset you. However, I think I'll leave you to your little trolling expedition here now, enigma. To be blunt, you are already boring me to tears.
Firstly, you don't know anything about me or my feelings on pedophilia. It's your crazy responses like this that makes me NOT take you seriously. So, what have you done besides come to DP and complain about it? I'll tell you what I've done. I personally sent an email to the FBI with a list and description of some of those sites that were carrying obvious child porn, that is pictures of young girls being molested and pictures of very young children having sex (very explicit pictures, which when I saw them I couldn't stop crying for days, and I still cry when I think about how young those little girls are), and I sent them sites with pictures of little girls in very provocative posses (something is going on there, too). I didn't have time to waste debating about it at Dmoz or DP. In the grand scheme of things those children need to be protected ASAP, and that means notifying the proper authorities (not coming to DP and talking about it!) quickly. Coming to DP and complaining about it (which is mostly what you did and NOTHING else) or debating the topic on Dmoz internal forums does NOTHING to keep those young children from being molested. The first thing that came into my mind was that these sites needed to be shut down. You're not shutting down these sites by delisting them from Dmoz because they will still exist through search engines and other hang-outs of pedophiles. The only way to keep these children from having their lives further ruined is by having the proper authorities shut down these websites and having these perpetrators arrested. So, now you tell me self-righteous gworld what you did to keep those little girls from being molested. I think the answer is really NOTHING! You did NOTHING to help them, yet you come here with your all-mighty attitude like you're against little girls being molested. HOGWASH! If you really cared about those little girls being molested then you would have done something to stop it. So, tell me how coming to DP and complaining about Dmoz carrying pedophile sites will stop the freak that’s molesting a 2 year old girl? Yes, I came across a picture of 2 year old girl being molested by some freak and I made the FBI aware of it. What did you do to help that 2 year old little girl? Do you actually think coming to DP and protesting about sites listed in Dmoz is going to keep that 2 year old from being molested? Your rationalization doesn't pass muster. And, for anyone who lives outside the US and don't know where to report such sites to, go to the FBI's homepage (http://www.fbi.gov) and fill out their tip form (I think it's under "contact us'), or call the FBI attaché office in your home country (if there is one) and report it. The FBI works with the authorities of other countries to shut down these child porn operations, so do your part to stop these bastards. Too bad, so sad for the first sentence. Get used to it. No, the sarcastic comment about Dmoz didn't upset me. There are a lot of comments on here about dmoz that are either off-the-wall irrational, or sarcastic at best, none of them have prompted a response from me. I volunteer for Dmoz, but Dmoz isn't my life, so I don't get upset over comments made about Dmoz. I just feel sorry for someone who thinks its okay to have a laugh at all the kids who have been or who are being molested. Jokes on them, huh? BTW, if you consider my posts trolling (I assume because you don't like what I have to say), then I guess I'm in like company, because you seem to come here to troll every day.
Did you even read that thread? There was FBI contact information, plus other organization that works against pedophiles in that thread. One of the people here even visited the local FBI office. What we did was that through public pressure, we forced DMOZ to remove such listings which was a complete resource for all the pedophiles. This makes it more difficult for such sites to rank in search engines and be found by pedophiles. I think, it is obvious that we did much more than you could ever achieve by kissing ass in DMOZ.
Please enlighten us: Where exactly did I "laugh at all the kids who have been or who are being molested" or post anything even remotely like that, troll? At least try and get your facts straight before you go on a rant
Okay, I'm troll #2, but you're troll #1 since you've perfected the art of message board trolling. Have you thought of making a website along the lines of "trolling for dummies?" I'm sure it will be a hoot, especially since you have so much good information to pass along to other troll wannabe's. As for the part you quoted, no you didn't make that exact comment, but you pretty much insinuated it by making fun of it. The two year old girl I mentioned in my earlier post, would you make fun of molestation in her face when she's old enough to realize the hurt and pain she's gone through? You're a psychologist aren't you? Perhaps you'll make fun of child molestation to her, THEN offer her help for all her problems caused by it? Sorry, but people like you truly make me sick. WHAT DID YOU DO! Nothing. I'm tired of you telling me what OTHER people did. WHAT DID YOU DO TO HELP THAT TWO YEAR OLD GIRL FROM BEING MOLESTED? Stop trying to take credit for other people's hard work. As for google, I have sites that are indexed by google and not listed by dmoz, so having your site delisted from dmoz will have little to no affect on google.
What you mentioned is that you have send an email to FBI, how is that more important than anything else that I or anybody else who was active with this subject is done? By the way, we have only your word that you have even done that since you never publicly took a position against it before.
enigma, I would strongly suggest that you take a break and also consider taking some pills that may lower your blood-pressure. Otherwise you are hindering yourself from realizing that most of the points you are trying to make are just a ridiculous exageration. BTW, isn't it too much honor already claiming the position of troll #2?