ATTEN: Might want to stop putting your URLS in the threads!!!

Ok lets now believe this HAS been implemented.

What will happen to the following

1. Text-link-ads.com
2. Link Directory Owners
3. And digitalpoint (which offers a link in return for a donation)

crash and burn?

 

Forum links are already devalued as well. Getting the word out doesn't have to involve buying links. 5 or 6 years ago I remember people going around to relevant sites and sending an email similar to:

"Hello, I noticed your website at yoursite.com links to resources involving 'my niche'. Would you please take a look at mysite.com and consider adding it to your page about 'my niche'?"

Now it's here's $5 give me a link. They don't like that and never have.

 

I think text link ads went to full disclosure on each post. If they did you can believe google has already, or is working on devaluing those links for PR purposes.

Link directories and DP are the same. If the directory is known for selling links they are probably already devalued somewhat. Devalued might not mean 0 PR passes but could be anything in between. I know that PHPBB link was discussed on webmaster forums quite a bit years ago because people bought a PR 10 link and saw no benefit from it at all. That's 2004 at least, who knows how much Google knows already but it's not that hard to snoop out paid links on a wide scale so I don't put anything past them.

 

Hence my problems...

Forums are better then usenet, and unless it's gmail they don't really know who clicked. In the good old days, a link was a link, was a link... now they have erratas, addendum's, referendums, and various restrictions.

On my first webpage I put a couple of cool sites at the bottom of my portal because I thought they were cool...I had no clue about PR. These sites also topped my links page. On this new standard, these sites would be devauled.

If I make a wordpress theme I should get credit for it, should my sponsors? I certainly think so...without them I'd not have bothered. What about my blog posts? Who is to say that I didn't really get my new tires from the-worlds-greatest-tire-website-click-my-ads.com? Accordingly, I've written a few reviews of local places, and of a few online shops. Now my blog could get tagged as a spammer...

Granted, many of the other ad places should likely convert to a non-PR passing system, but then, those are the selling points.
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Google is actually never late in introducing new algos if you re-call all of its recent updates, this project is under beta/alpha or whatever it is,is only because google knows what its dealing with, and after the recent SES (which btw was just stupid,ranting noobs), it had the sudden wake up call to stop spam,when it isn't (although alot might disagree).

Google will never really announce or start to devalue links at all, although you might disagree but that is never the case.

This is just like that recent sponsor theme trend, it will go away soon, no need to worry...

 

Did you seriously say Google doesn't devalue any links at all? If so I suggest you do some research, if not your statement is worded badly.

 

Yep worded badly.

I know for a fact that natural links carry more pr,and google is doing something behind the scenes, but i doubt it will ever come out and admit it.

These little clips of what can be at matts blogs is all we get and its b.s
its already done for.

we shouldve been panicking like this before 4 year
what had to be done was done before
what matt is suggesting to take things into beta/testing modes, is just b.s
theres nothing more to be done here


Consider that my last reply thats worded properly, im way too tired to be writing up logical statements.

 

Cool then

 

I dont like this one bit. As someone stated earlier, how do you differentiate between an "ad" and a "paid link"? Is Google trying to get webmasters out of business?

 

Ok can we say adsense and adwords come into mind in this situation........Google wants you to use their analytics, keyword tracker and Adsense/Adwords campaigns. Cuts down on the competition... Slaps the hands of those who are highly indexed pages and PR.

MONOPOLY.........MICROSOFT................GOOGLE...............MINE..........ALL MINE>>>>>>>>>>>All YOUR MONEY

 

Awsome, another way of googlebowling is here!

 

What are your SEO credentials? I ask because it is impossible for someone to go "google bowling" with this method.

 

Just a wild guess but eventually if google finds out through a report that you have paid links they will remove any weight that link gave you or just completely ban you if a majority of your links are paid. So now all one has to do is code a program to send in automated complaints to this form http://www.google.com/contact/spamreport.html with random messages but all indicating your site has paid links. Or even better make 100 google accounts and submit the complaints via the webmaster console since complaints carry more weight there. Of course that would be a really evil thing to do but when you think about 98% of the complaints will come from other webmasters who are jealous/frustrated that they are being outranked.

 

Let's just say this:

"No matter what Google does, SEO's, Webmasters or whatever other names you want to call us, will find ways to defeat whatever objective Google is trying to achieve."

This has always been the way. It would not take long at all for all of us to use "other" methods to continue having a successful business.

As I said before. Storm in a Teacup.

Col

 

This is going to hurt ALOT of websites. Im still wondering, what will happen to Text Link Ads

 

One of the problems (IMHO) with banning or devaluing paid for links is where does a new website start?

I mean, you may produce the finest work around, have the most relevant material, be the world expert in your field BUT if no-one ever visits your site or tells others about it you will never get up the rankings.

I understand there are other ways of promoting a site but surely link building (buying) can be seen as a genuine attempt to promote a new site? Once a quality site gets some inital exposure the generic links will come eventually but we all need a start - don't we?

 

Well, since all matt cutss said was that they will be starting some new testing, I don't think this is in the implementation phase yet. It means that even more then before link selling has to be done 'under the radar'. Make sure you don't have online proof that a link is sold and that includes labeling a link sponsored or sold.

But since there is obvious misuse potential here (let's report all the paid links our competitor's got - and some natural ones as well), they aren't going to just put every reported link on devalued status. They just want us (at this point) to report some links so they can start testing. And I think they will realize up front that some of those reported links are not going to really be paid at all.

 

Exactly. Since google can't read minds or look into paypal accounts yet, all they can do is look at certain characteristics of paid links. Things like being listed under (sposored links header), being off-topic footer links, etc.

SEO types and link sellers will adjust to that. For example, by putting the links into pre-exisiting content.

 

I definetly can see how this is Google monapolizing the market but at the same time I feel like you shouldnt able to buy your way to the top.

 

Oh for crying out loud ! Stop your martial arts heroics and stop being cheap. Your one of the cheap bastards that are jealous when seeing someone on the rise.

Stop hanging around at Solicitations and Announcements for FREE LINKS.