Athiests in a debate.

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by kolgames, Dec 16, 2009.

  1. kolgames

    kolgames Active Member

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    #61
    I am guessing the 'holegames' was an attempt at being funny.
    But immaturity aside, I actually am reading about the things you listed, I don't have alot of time, but I am.


    And thank you 2 for proving the point of this whole thread.
     
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  2. Hijynx427

    Hijynx427 Well-Known Member

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    #62
    I don't think that Breeze Wood could have said it any better. This is your scoop regardless what the Atheists and Christians act like.

    JMM
     
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  3. Codythebest

    Codythebest Notable Member

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    #63
    I like this one so much I have rewritten it: :rolleyes:

    Rebecca: I'm doubtful, I doubt that Harry Potter exists.

    Kolgames: I KNOW Harry Potter exists, it's totally real.

    Rebecca: How can you be so sure?

    Kolgames: Well Rebecca, the Harry Potter book tells me so.

    Rebecca: How do you know the Harry Potter book is true.

    Kolgames: Harry Potter said it's true!

    Rebecca: How do you know Harry Potter said it's true?

    Kolgames: Because it's in the Harry Potter book, stupid.

    The End
     
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  4. stOx

    stOx Notable Member

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    #64
    Had a chance to look at chimpanzee chromosome 13 and ERV DNA matches in humans and chimpanzees yet? And if you have, what is your explanation for these if not common decent?
     
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  5. kolgames

    kolgames Active Member

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    #65
    Very funny actually, I love to laugh at people making totally wrong assumptions about somebody else based on their beliefs! :D

    </sarcasm>

    You need to read my first post, because you don't know my beliefs as well as you think you do.

    and stOx, I haven't had time to read about it yet, but when I do I will gladly debate with you on the "Is God Real?" topic :p

    Anyway, this topic is getting off course, please read the original post and lets discuss what this topic is about :)
     
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  6. Dysturbed

    Dysturbed Peon

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    #66
    Hail Mary? Fuck her. I never knew her. I'd probably screw her and dump her body in the sewer.

    Atheism for life!
     
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  7. kolgames

    kolgames Active Member

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    #67
    You weren't lying when you filled in the username box were you?

    Be somewhat serious or leave my thread.

    "nigga is a whiney pussy"

    tried to leave this message with his neg rep on my page, but he can't, shows his maturity.
     
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  8. Codythebest

    Codythebest Notable Member

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    #68
    Oh no, don't make me wrong. I do not know your beliefs, I couldn't care less, I will never ask and it's the last of my preoccupation to be honest.
    My rewriting was just as dumb or as smart as your stuff about the bible book and the G-d dude...same thing...exact same thing. Harry Potter book has a lot of success as well as the bible book. Both written by successful writers and best sellers...I mean...the very same thing...
     
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  9. Genuine Marketer

    Genuine Marketer Well-Known Member

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    #69
    Agreed and just like Harry Potter, it should be treated as a work of fiction.
     
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  10. blueparukia

    blueparukia Well-Known Member

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    #70
    See, what I don't get is why atheists don't want religion around.

    I do not believe in God, I never have and most likely never will. However, I have friends from the Christian, Muslim and Aboriginal faiths and I can see that their beliefs help them a alot in their lives, and the Christian faith (especially 10 Commandments) is what the moral structure of most of the world is based on.

    And imagine a world without religion - a world where no one believed in God, a world with no faith. It wouldn't make a whole heap of difference. It's not religion causing wars, it's difference of beliefs.

    So when there is a world of no religion, with no Christians fighting Muslims...instead we'll have Republicans fighting Democrats, Environmentalists fighting the Japanese and the world fighting America. The South Park Episode "Go God Go!" has a pretty accurate depiction of a world without religion.

    Religion has it's negative and positive sides, and I don't ask or care what a person's faith is. I just found out last month that one of my friends who I've known for six years is Jewish after I cracked a WW2 joke to a German in his presence. It's only when people try to force their beliefs upon you I get annoyed/

    Just get over it, everyone. People have different beliefs. Debate doesn't change that, both sides just think the other side are idiots.
     
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  11. Codythebest

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    #71
    Wrong. If you don't care about cars, you can drive any of them. If you are a fanatic of BMW for instance, you are more likely to hate Mercedes, Jaguar, etc...

    Believers are weaker people who need something to lean on...
    I have no problem with believers of other faith. They just hate me because I don't believe in their god or because I don't go to church...

    Correct. Therefore imagine no difference, because no religion..

    It will not change. Homo homini lupus est.
     
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  12. blueparukia

    blueparukia Well-Known Member

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    #72
    I can't be wrong. I made an observation from my point. But yes, you are right.

    Not gonna buy that for a second. Just because you need something in life does not make you (as a person) weaker for it. I for starters need to eat every day and while that is a human weakness, it doesn't make me any weaker as a human being.

    Beliefs are generally far more widespread than religion. An Arizona senator may believe that pi is equal to 3, which will generally upset every single mathematician. Republicans and Democrats apparently have different beliefs and they are constantly just disagreeing with each other for the fun of it.


    If you don't make a point of it, it'll rarely come up and most religious people won't care. On the internet it seems 8 times out of 10 it's the atheist who brings it up and creates problems, as the OP stated.

    Exactly. Both you and I are atheists and have different beliefs, which may as well mean we're of different religions.
     
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  13. Laceygirl

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    #73
    Here's what's on my mind.

    Atheists is a fair bit simple than Christians. People always have a problem with others who don't fit in. Atheists stand in a crowd together and don't like it how Christians are not like them. Athiests are ridiculous for their reasons and often never are backed up with a good reason why they don't like Christians. One rare one who does have a fairly good argument usually consists of throwing a question that cannot be answered by any Christian on the planet and watch the Christian squirm to fake an answer.

    Christians often have no respect for people who don't believe in God. The average Christian is a little bit of a know-it-all and they "pity" the one's who don't know better. With all of that conceited behavior it must get an Atheist mad. Exspecially since most atheist know that there are many Christians who truly life for themselves and are faking out the religion by doing it part time. The Christians are a tad disrespectable because by understanding that their soul is replaced by the holy spirit they have 1+ on anyone else. The Atheists are fools to them.

    This is another category which is very uncommon and not nationally known. As for myself I've stepped into this section of faith myself. The Ex-Christian is someone who has been a Christian but has given it up. Since once you are a Christian you cannot be undone because well...you arlready found God, so you can't very well forget that so you cannot be an Atheist, however you disagree to play by the Christians law for whatever reason. my reason isn't important to the answer to this right now, maybe I'll get into it later...

    Anyway The Ex-Christian don't like the Atheists because they are so simple minded, running around chasing the next fad like a bunch of monkeys. The media says "text" and in a year everyone from 40yr old business owners to 9yr old girls are texting dumb pointless crap to each other like 2yr olds in daycare. We think they are pretty simple minded in general, but an Ex-Christian will always prefer an Atheist over a Christian. The Athiest, even though never knew God are more balanced with their personality. An Ex-Christian likes things like justice, fairness, and common sense, but since Christians never run with that path the Ex can't really listen to them. We don't fit in with those Atheists at all but can easily fake it. The Atheists also often are straight forward with the "dog eats dog" concept, but Christians manipulate when playing this game in life. What we don't like about Athiests is they are so impossible to be worth anything. Your best friend will steal your girlfriend, your girlfriend thinks cheating is ok if you are a teen, if you win it doesn't matter how you did it or at who's expense, etc. All of this is annoying.

    The reason we don't like the Christians is because we can't handle the amount backstabbing, favortism, two faced, and manipulation they pull. Wow, if you want to see someone manipulate the world away go talk to a Christian who's doing something wrong. Instead of being sorry and repenting most of them just twist and turn the truth around until they have no fault. The churches are robbing people blind, Christians are taking one phrase in the bible and making up 50 diff. meanings out of the one line. It drives us Ex's crazy. The Atheists have it together. They equally either have no option on the topic of God, never thought about it, or believe its BS. The Christians, don't get me started with how many differences they have. They might as well all be in their own religions. One thinks dancing is wrong, another thinks that ripping people off is ok if its business, another thinks they should be a virgin until marriage(fine by me) but then they go and marry the first person they see once they reach 18, another thinks having children is what God wants so they have 5 to 10 of them.....the list goes on.

    The ten commandments is not even close to what makes a Christian different. Its just one out of a million testimonies that the bible offers to mankind.

    Since you are not a follower of the bible you won't understand how the faith of God with Christianity is far beyond following blindly. It lives inside you. You can feel God and possibly know Him. There is much proof in the religion, its just that you cannot record it for an athiest to know.

    On another note, science is worse because instead of making a calculated decision on what to believe if you go for science then you are just following what someone dude said that you have not met. Trust me, this science thing is more of a bunch of Hoaxes, lies, and media tricks than the truth. Tons of junk like this caveman skeleton have been found to be a total fraud. You can't believe what you hear nowadays. People have to many secret hooks like fame and money to tell the truth in the matter of science.

    Dude, this topic nor forum is not for children. For just a child who loves to be an atheist, you sure sound unhappy in your life. Empty void deep inside or something?
     
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    #74
    I''l point you in the direction of it. They are very small pieces outlining the significance of chimpanzee chromosome 13 and ERV DNA.

    You asked me for evidence supporting common decent and i have given it to you, don't be a gutless coward now and try to wriggle out of addressing it. It seems it only become "off topic" when you were about to have to have you your ass handed to you, even though it was you who asked for it.
     
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    #75
    The evidence on chimp 13 and ERV DNA shows about as much evidence as scientists claiming that dinosaurs all evolved into modern day birds because some dinosaurs had feathers and some species had a missing thumb finger. What's happening is that scientists are jumping to conclusions without proof.

    There are plent of chromosomes that are shared with many species but that does not mean they evolved into each other. This is ridiculous.
     
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    #76
    You obviously failed to understand what ERV DNA is then, which isn't actually an argument against anything besides the claim that you possess the capacity to participate in any scientific dialogue.

    Tell me in your own words what ERV DNA is and why you think we think its evidence for common decent. Remember, ERV DNA isn't anything to do with genetic similarities, the DNA is "junk dna", it serves no purpose genetically.
     
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    #77
    Since I'm not too hype with DNA because I just so happen to be mostly qualified in paleotology referring to dinosaurs, extinct species, wildlife, and the extinction theories I don't know too much. If I were to be put on the spot with a question like this I would just guess that ERV is just usless DNA that is transmitted through generations. Through a quick google check it was saying that the ERV in the past could've been an disease which only lasted a short period of time, but still the ERV DNA was present and continued to pass to the next generation even though its "junk" DNA.

    Now it just so happens that there are traces of this particular DRV in monkey's which are in people as well. This is not even close to proof though because the same DRV can be found in Crocodiles and Balilisk. Does that mean that a brown Balilisk is an evolved crocodile? Of course not. They share that ERV in common because they are closely related becuase they are both meant to live in the same eviroment, temperatures, and are both cold blooded, etc.

    The Scientists also found an alien and pulled out and recorded a major biopsy as well. It was released to FOX Television(lol) and for some strange reason those same scientists could not afford a clear camera with color...............
    How about when the first crop circles appeared and over 500 Gov't funded Scientists stood together and concluded that it could not be made by humans after a major investigation. Then 3 rednecks with boards and ropes showed everyone how to make them in 6hours in the night.
    How about when in 1969 NASA was pumped that a man landed on the moon, then 40yrs later last month they are just as pumped because they found water on it. Seriously, after landing on it 40yrs ago we'd expect a lot more out of this...........

    Most Science is just made up when they start talking theories. You have to wait for solid proof before backing up something like science.

    On a side note, your Athiest group is pretty offensive I'd say. Maybe I should start a White people only group to match yours...........
     
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    #78
    Too bad I chased Nehemiah off the forums, not much left to really make fun of.

    Debunked, do you consider yourself a Christian?
     
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    #79
    Thanks ncz_nate for once again proving beyond any doubt that, void of THE PROPER moral compass (along with HIS enlightenment), "ats" and/or "ags" just can't help but lie.
    It is written, "I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent."; and elsewhere, "A wicked doer gives heed to false lips; and a liar gives ear to a naughty tongue."

    JESUS CHRIST IS The reason for The Season: Merry Christmas, DP'ers.
     
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    #80
    Hey Nehemiah - those are some great Bible quotes, but where are they from? Could you dig up the Books, Chapters and Verses? It sounds vaguely familiar but I can't put a finger on any of them.

    Jason
     
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