Atheism Q&A

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Will.Spencer, Jun 5, 2010.

  1. ChaosTrivia

    ChaosTrivia Active Member

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    #141
    True. Because man didn't come from apes. Instead, man and apes share a common ancestor.

    Too bad you didn't see the video I posted.
    As explained in the video, the fossil record is a very convincing evidence. None the less, it is not even the best evidence we have. The best evidence we have comes from DNA research.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Nk6azanGQs
    The head of the human genome project, a believing Christian himself.
    Evolution is a fact man. Get over it.
     
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    #142
    You right there man did not come from apes. We might share similar traits but that is the extent of it. I learned one thing in life, nothing is soo certain that I would put my whole trust behind and say that this is the truth and only the truth. We live in a universe of chance and by chance we are here talking. You or I will never have that final answer nor will science or religion. So belief is simply something personal we make up in our minds. When those beliefs cause harm then that is when we have to take a step back and rethink our beliefs.
     
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  3. ChaosTrivia

    ChaosTrivia Active Member

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    #143
    we share a lot of traits. more than you are aware of.

    Interesting. Don't you think that the earth being round and not flat is soooo certain?
    Sorry. Some things are certain, for example, the fact that we and chimps had a common ancestor some 5 million years ago.

    ok. irrelevant.

    Science already has the final answer. Its called: "evolution". And this is how you and I and the rest of the life forms we see today on earth got here to be what they are.
    Evolution is the unifying field of all life-sciences: because of it, everything new which is found immediately makes sense, and never stands in contradiction with it.
    Evolution is not only explaining our past, but also play a crucial role in our ability to make ourselves a better future. (i.e. developing better anti-biotics, evolution-based aerodynamic calculations, etc').

    I have no beliefs. Some things I know, some things I don't know. Regarding the things I don't know, I might have certain beliefs, but I am well aware that they are simply beliefs and will be glad to replace them with real knowledge. This is what tells the difference between an atheist and a person with a dogma. or, persons that in 2010 can claim that "evolution was not proven 100%" ;)
     
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  4. scotman

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    #144
    On one side you have religious zealots and on the otherside you have scientific zealots but neither of them can prove without a shadow of a doubt their own existence.

    Anyone can make a common obeservation e.g. earth being round but scientific studies are not 100% fact. If it involve humans then their is a always that chance of human error. Experiments are and have been corrupted for political purposes. Did you not read about ClimateGate. I am glad you feel so strongly about all this but don't let it consume you.

    With that carry on I figured I would throw in my question. I mean this was about questions right ?
     
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  5. nightcrawlers

    nightcrawlers Active Member

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    #145
    I heard Osama Bin Laden Created Atheists is it true?

    Why Atheists are Arrogant?
     
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  6. ChaosTrivia

    ChaosTrivia Active Member

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    #146
    Scotman. What you are saying is not only wrong. It is pretty shameful. You are disgracing yourself.

    If scientific studies did not produce an almost infinite list of 100% facts, this forum would not have existed. Your cellular phone would not have existed. Heart surgeries would not have been made possible.
    Nuclear bombs would not have existed. Fresh water sanitation would not have existed. Space travel would not have existed. Aviation would not have existed... and so on..and on... and on... and on....

    Please. Do yourself a favor. Stop guessing and/or repeating words of preachers. Buy couple of popular science books in simple language for the "general public", and start to educate yourself on the subject.
    Hopefully in no time you'll understand how terribly wrong your quoted statement is.

    A good place to start for you, as Obamanation pointed out, is to know "What is science? How it works?" or in other words the "scientific method". http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcavPAFiG14 bookmark this video and watch it until you know it by heart ;)

    Good luck
     
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  7. Will.Spencer

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    #147
    Reading some of the posters on this forum, it's pretty apparent that man and ape are really really really really closely related. :p
     
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  8. nightcrawlers

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    #148
    Yeah specially those who pointing to Darwin theory.

    Will Not being rude with you as Rob told me once.. I respect Rob...

    Are you born Atheist?
    What makes you believe that there is no God?
    Who is superior of all in your belief?
    Who created Atheism?
    As, Atheists don't believe in God/Religion/, And in every religion books it is mention what is right and what is wrong. Do not do sins etc etc.. What do you believe on? how you differentiate sins? Who guide Atheists that these are good things and these are bad?
    I see people when they are in trouble or severely ill they pray to God (obviously they consult doctors) What do Atheists do?

    P.S: Ignore earlier questions that were posted above in previous post because that was I saw humiliation of other religions so tit for tat!
     
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  9. scotman

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    #149
    Don't forget all the great advancements in science like the atomic bomb that killed and maimed upwards 140,000 innocent women and children. Yes we have alot to be proud of were the advancements of science have taken us.
     
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  10. Will.Spencer

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    #150
    We are born unknowing. I was a very serious Christian during much of my youth.

    I have seen no evidence supporting a belief in any of the popular gods, nor in Santa Claus, nor in the Tooth Fairy, nor in Superman, nor in Batman.

    As a result, I believe in none of them.

    I don't think I understand the question.

    Who is the most superior being to have ever lived? I can't think of anyone who tops Thomas Jefferson -- and even he had a long list of flaws.

    I think that Atheism has been around since the first human decided not to be afraid of the unknown.

    Every Atheist must decide for him or her self, but it does appear from scientific testing that 90+% of beliefs are the same across humans from different cultures. As such, it seems reasonable to deduce that most of our ideas of right and wrong have been determined by the process of evolution.

    Personally, I have a support network of advisors whom I can reach out to for help. Many are Atheists, but many are not Atheists.

    Believing in religion is akin to being scared of the dark. It should be humiliating for a grown man to be afraid of the dark!
     
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  11. nightcrawlers

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    #151
    I have another question Fifa World Cup is going on.. I am supporting England... So I would pray to God that England wins.

    Lets say you are supporting USA would you pray to God that USA wins? Or would you scientifically calculate somehow that Goal would be scored or not? Or it would be Evolution?
     
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  12. Will.Spencer

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    #152
    As a spectator, I don't believe that anything I do will affect the outcome of the game. (Well... I could set off the fire alarm at the competing team's hotel at 3am the night before a game...)

    Natural selection is a little bit like the World Cup. The teams with the better traits (strategy, tactics, training, discipline, physical fitness, etc...) win at each level and are then able to move on to the next round of competition. In natural selection, the genes with the better traits (adaptability, sturdiness, intelligence, physique, attractiveness to potential mates, etc...) win in each generation and move on to the next round of competition.
     
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  13. nightcrawlers

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    #153
    I know better intelligence, training and etc etc would help... What I'm asking is I pray to God as an American supporter that USA wins the world cup.. What would you do or pray for USA to win the world cup.. Italy were favorites they got all the things you have mentioned they are out.. Question is As a supporter of USA team you want your team to win right? What would you Pray as an Atheist? Because you don't believe in prayers or God.. You cannot calculate either because upsets do happen!! Just a question?
     
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    #154
    Sorry to butt in here, but I didn't really see a new question in the quoted post. Italy was a favorite but was defeated. Do you think it was because of prayers? Perhaps there were injuries involved. Perhaps it was chance(luck). Perhaps despite being the favorite, their strategy, tactics, training, discipline, and physical fitness were not on a par with their competitors who defeated them. There are many plausible reasons, but prayer is not one of them.
     
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    #155
    You mean to say Atheist rely on luck? Luck is defined as "An unknown and unpredictable phenomenon that causes an event to result one way rather than another"

    It is pretty confusing here to rely on luck always... Can't we change Luck?
     
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    #156
    I used the word chance. Chance is always in play. A bolt could fall off of an aircraft flying overhead, strike you in the head and kill you. A poorly conditioned and trained with little skill could kick the ball into the net one in a thousand times. Perhaps that one time occurs at an important moment.

    Nobody relies on chance. People rely on conditioning, training, etc, etc, etc. Relying on chance has exactly the same odds of success as relying on prayer.
     
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    #157
    It reminds me of probability in my last semester :D

    Is there guidelines for Atheism? Or it is individuals who make their own decisions on assuming the things or the way they assume? Just asking for my knowledge because I don't know much about it.. Don't get offended.
     
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    #158
    There are no "guidelines for atheism", same way there are no guidelines for not collecting stamps
     
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  19. Will.Spencer

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    #159
    I don't pray to anyone, because it doesn't do any good.

    A friend of mine is dying of stomach cancer. He is one of the few really good people on this planet. He has a young wife and four beautiful children at home. As long as I have known him he has worked tirelessly to give to his family, his friends, his church, his community, and his co-workers. He has always been an unstoppable fountain of positive energy, even through chemotherapy. The world will be a darker place when he leaves it.

    Should I pray for him? No. That would be senseless. Instead, I should do things to make sure that he's taken care of during his final days and that his family is taken care of after he passes away.

    Probability is an enormous part of natural selection!

    Minor genetic changes happen constantly, but the vast majority of them die out in the same generation.

    The really good ones have a slightly better chance of succeeding and continuing on.

    The same mutation may occur many many times before it finally "sticks" and spreads through the gene pool.

    There are no guidelines which one must follow, but most people do seem to end up following similar guidelines. This appears to show that much of the ethical beliefs of humans have a basis in evolutionary biology.

    On a more advanced level, many Atheists write books and those books can be useful guidelines for an Atheist who is seeking guidance.

    Personally, my "bible" is online at Famous Quote. :)
     
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    #160
    Quiet interesting facts! What is the concept of Heaven and Hell? If in Atheism someone do Sins(or you can say bad things don't know which are considered bad) No one would tell them that you'll be burnt if they don't have fear of hell they'll do more sins or bad things!

    In any other religion they stop bad people from sins that they'll burn in hell... Isn't it going to create problem if one thinks nothing will happen If I continue being a bad person?
     
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