I didn't say i argue with them. I said they are capable of logic, reasoning and that they have a sense of fairness and justice. Human is what animal we are. It's the name used to describe the animal that we are. "Humans, or human beings, are bipedal primates belonging to the mammalian species Homo sapiens (Latin: "wise man" or "knowing man") in the family Hominidae (the great apes)." There is no getting away from it. We are animals. You will deny it, But being wrong is your speciality. Explain how believing that would require logic. You really don't know what logic means do you. It's apparent now that you are simply saying "logic" because it's been used against you in such a devastating way. SO AGAIN, Explain why an evolved human/animal that is just a bunch of atoms would be incapable of logic.
Are you listening to yourself??? Let me quote you again: "Explain why an evolved human/animal that is just a bunch of atoms would be incapable of logic." How in the world can I explain why a bunch of atoms is incapable of logic??? A bunch of atoms??? I see bunches of atoms everyday. In fact I sit on a bunch of atoms ( a chair) right now. I don't argue with bunches of atoms.
So you make the claim but you don't know why you made it and can't explain why your claim would be true? yeah that sounds like something you would do. Are you saying you aren't a bunch of atoms? What do you think you are made of?
That's mean ProteinDude, you think Chimpanzees belong in zoos and circuses (as well as the wild) I'd like to see all zoos abolished and animals take out from circuses.
Yeah i thought that too BRUm, I didn't want to mention it because i know how difficult it is for protiendude to stay focused, so i didn't want to distract him with thing like his obvious lack of morality towards animals.
There's some logic in that statement somewhere. By your logic, artificial intelligence is not designed because it adapts. That's genious, you should tell the programmers to stop working so hard to design AI and just start mashing keys.
If you want to believe god created the laws of natural selection and adaptation then you should abandon creation and intelligent design. the two are mutually exclusive. You keep avoiding the question. Do you believe that animals/plants/humans adapt? yes or no? I don't understand what artificial intelligence has to do with anything so I'll just assume it's a pathetic attempt to derail an argument you are losing and ignore it.
Read, comprehend, respond. I was the one that said things change. In fact, that's what started the whole ignorant "you can't have it both ways" silliness. Seriously, get an education. Just because you can't read, doesn't mean I'm dodging questions. You have yet to demonstrate why that is. Of course you don't. One of many things you don't understand. Let me spell out for you in simple terms you can understand: Humans DESIGN artificial intelligence to ADAPT to it's environment. God DESIGNED humans to ADAPT to their environment. If MAN can do it why can't GOD do it? That's special.
Why can't God do it? You're asking Atheists why God shouldn't be able to do it? You're asking the infidels, the heathen, the Godless Satanists! hahah. You mean apart from the fact he/she/it doesn't exist?
Christians and the bible say the biblical god and Jesus is one, and then the bible says: Hebrews 13:8 (King James Version) 8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and forever. http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Hebrews 13:8 ;&version=9; That is the complete opposite of adaption and evolution, which is to change. So if the biblical god/Jesus is alway the same, it is illogical and nonsense to think such a being would adapt. (Which is the complete opposite of "staying the same forever")
Are you Jesus Christ? Exactly. That's the whole crux of your religion. A belief. Not a scientific observation.
Kalvin never said God is changing. Maybe you meant to reply in some other thread? Woops, now I see what you were high-lighting. Kalvin still isn't saying God changes - he says that God created men to adapt. (Not that God created God to adapt - very strange.)
I think he got confused. It's really hard to wrap your mind around the idea that somethings are made to stay the same and other things are made to adapt. Humans are not allowed to make adaptable creations AND fixed creations and neither is God. It just doesn't make any sense. How can you have two different things? That's like apples and oranges. It makes no sense. How can you have apples AND oranges?
Kalvin, I know you said "my religion" just to try and piss me off. I'm not religious. I don't care what Will says about Atheism being a faith; I'm atheist by default - I just simply know there's no god. That's not faith. You guys like to use the semantic game, which is why I deliberately said "know" and not "believe". Judging on observations, which by definition makes them facts, there's no evidence to support god. Therefore, it is scientific, not a belief. The burden of truth is on you guys, not us.
People used to know the earth was flat, too. I know there is a God. So I guess we're at an impass. That's like saying you're calling me a "creationist" just to piss me off. No. The burden is on you to open your mind.
That's funny you should say the burden is for me to open my mind. I bet I'm more open minded than you are Kalvin. I bet if I so much as mentioned being Liberal you'd be on to me with all your other right wing buddies, like rabid dogs, howling "weakness", "hippies", "apathetic" and all the rest of it. The truth is the burden of proof is for the theists to prove there is a divine creator. We're not the ones with the fantastic stories.
You also bet you knew more about creationism and evolution than me. You've very bad at gambling. It doesn't matter how "open minded" you claim to be. You've shut your brain down to the idea that God could very well exist. So I guess being "open minded" doesn't do much for knowing truth now does it? Rather than making the effort to find the truth yourself you just put the burden on others to do the work for you. That's not open minded. That's lazy and close minded. All this BS still has nothing to do with showing us anything that science has observed that puts a kink in creationism. Are you going to try the dinosaur bones thing next?
Fantastic stories? You believe in a theory from a man, in the same way, we believe in creationism, because logic has dictated to us that without it: 1) This world had much less than a miniscule chance of being created; 2) Even if it happened by chance, which the probably in next to zero, the probability that life would sustain itself for so long = a probably next to zero. Atheists don't seem to grasp this concept; and who's to say that theories can't be right? We don't know what happened right before the 'Big Bang' - so God could have well caused that. People who use logic to explain religion are the people who have the highest levels of belief - logic is one way of proving that God exists.
Oh great, another one.. Anyway Kalvin, you sure look like a fool now: I've never closed my mind enough to disallow any possibility of a god. For all I know quantum physics, atoms or dark matter could be a god. I just oppose the human-like aspect you hold.