We do? Atheists don't seem any less bloodthirsty than any of our peers. It was just two days ago that I was being harangued by an Atheist who wanted to stamp out all religion -- by force. The problem isn't religion -- the problem is people not minding their own business. The Atheists in the Soviet Union imprisoned and murdered people for practicing religions-which-were-not-atheism. This was unrelated to their shared belief in communism.
Wow you met one atheist who wants to eliminate religion by force. Well in my mind that is certainly equal to the million of people killed in the name of one god or another
The difference is that he just said he wants to; on the other hand you guys did it, and are still at it
My guys didn't do anything. I'm probably the most atheistic member on DP. you said what i was trying to say in my post, Only in a less sarcastic way. Brum, Will is a right wing christian in an atheists clothing. He's only claiming to be an atheist hoping that the rest us will blindly agree with whatever he says. Didn't work, Did it will.
I am intellectually honest. We Atheists do have a horrible track record of violating human rights. We should do better. We should hold ourselves to a higher standard than the people we lampoon as primitives. Instead, we have done worse than they have! We have done little more than bring shame upon our religion. I am an Atheist because, quite simply, there is no god. I am not an Atheist because I have any sort of love towards my fellow Atheists. Most of the vocal Atheists are dirty and annoying children who are rebelling against mommy and daddy. It's pathetic. We should be the voice of reason, and instead we are the voice of whining. What are you, 12 years old? Growdafuckup.
go read up on history will. There currently seems to be no connection between the outside world and what is going on inside your head. The crusades, The inquisition, Terrorist bombings, Abortion clinic attacks, Genital mutilation of children. All done specifically in the name of religion. So to be honest, I think the last thing you are being is intellectually honest when you say atheism is responsible for more violence than religion. It seems to me that either you don't have a clue what you are talking about and are just making stuff up, or you are intentionally trying to muddy the waters and give the religious a head start. Let me explain why your argument is flawed. You argue that because communism promoted atheism (though it was more secularism in most cases) and then killed people that the atheism was the cause of the killing. I say you don't understand cause and effect. It wasn't the atheism that caused them to kill, It was the fact that they were psychopathic tyrannical dictators. They just happened to be atheists, Like most happened to have moustaches and most drank tea in the morning. With religion, However, The belief in a god/deity/prophet is specifically the reason they went killing, bombing and mutilating children genitals.
Mankind as a whole has a "horrible track record of violating human rights." All that atheists have in common is that they reject the idea of god. Atheists don't share common values like religious people do so I don't see why you use the word "we." Ask other atheists if they identify with you. Most probably will not.
The way I see some atheists, they still have the reason to make war to their neighbors, only if their neighbor is a believer. Really? Doing them a favor? Are they reaching to heaven? How do you know that? Did your God personally tell you so? And if that so then why the hell give them birth? Every one should kill his/her child in order to send them to heaven.. Now when you say the the other life is the real life why are you leading a fake life? You should go and join the real life, near to your god. Or should I take it as you like the fake life better?
It appears that we can see the strong religious fervor amongst Atheists to convert their fellow men -- right here on this forum! These petite Atheists are no better than their Christian, Buddhist, Muslim, or Hindu counterparts.
All of which, in total, do not add up to the number of people killed by us. Sorry Charlie. You are young and weak in your faith. Atheism is strong and true, it doesn't need you little e-jihadi brats defending it with your piss-poor arguments and your bizarrely incompetent understanding of history.
Like all religions, Atheism is based on faith, the faith that god doesn't exist. The only difference is, atheist's faith is backed by logic and tangible evidences. While All other religious faiths are backed by intangible and imaginary evidences that can not be proved.
True. Every other religion claims this too. Let's talk cosmology! That's where this argument ends. The deists can't tell us where god came from. We Atheists can't tell them where the material for the big bang came from. We're all just stuck here in this Universe together, without any definitive proof for our most basic beliefs.
You are not capable of understanding the meaning of this life obviously. And if you haven't realised it thus far, no one can ever teach you.
I would think of it as another reason for war. They probably hate people with no religion than anyone else. Rob
Explain to me what part of this sentence you are having trouble with. Atheists who kill do not kill in the name of atheism, They just happen to be atheists like they happen to have moustaches, They happen to wear shoes and they happen to have tea for breakfast. Atheism was not the cause of them killing, And even if it was (which it wasnt) the religious are still responsible for more deaths. Think about how many religions there are for a start, And most of them have at least been involved in human sacrifices, This is before we even get to the systematic genocide committed by christians on many occasions. The religious kill in the name of religion. Specifically in the name of religion. So anyone can make up any claim like the flying spaghetti monster and your disbelief in it would be like any other "religion", Based on "faith"? Or would it be based on the obvious glaring reality that there isn't a single shred of evidence to support the claim that it exists?
Go back and read again, I wrote "no one can ever teach you" because you are stable-minded. Live your life as you want, everyone's beliefs are between them and God, so it's not my business.