Atheism is necessarily ignorance (no hate)

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    Agnosticism is much more mature in terms of thinking, functionality and scientific approaches. It implies that there might or might not be a Godlike entity out there, but we are yet to determine a concrete belief about it yet since we do not have the available technology and resources yet to be able to determine that.

    A branch of Agnosticism, Ignosticism also raises the question of a coherent definition of a God being put forward before authentic researches could take place.

    Atheism, however is just ignorance. The concept of a God, or even a creator can be possible scientifically, but Atheism outright denies that a God or any spiritual or supernatural being could exist, without having any conclusive proof or research data to show the same.

    I'm, therefore an Agnostic, discuss, put forward your arguments etc.

    IT
     
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    Profound, and very true.
     
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    The second I see proof that it is possible there is this invisible guy controlling every thing that happens in this world I will believe. Until then, Atheist I shall be.

    Evolution from monkeys has been 100% proven while there is not one tiny shred of evidence that God exists.
     
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    The idea that God controls everything is a plain wrong concept. God has given us "Free Will", and in no way does He wish to control what happens in this world.

    God does have the power to do whatever He wants, but to believe that He's killing the 25000 or so children that die everyday is ridiculous. It is like we are blaming God for our short-comings.

    No Sir, evolution is just a theory, and there are many people who'd suggest Darwin's model of evolution is woefully inadequate.

    Though I believe in evolution, but the fact that Humans have evolved from Homo Erectus monkey is too far-fetched. We may have similarities, but that does not mean we descend from them.

    The usual logic says Homo Erectus ==> Neanderthal man ==> Cro-Magnon man

    That concept is flawed, because Neanderthal man and Cro-Magnon man existed at the same time. Neanderthals went extinct because they could not adjust to changing climatic conditions.

    I had seen that documentary on National Geographic, and I would try to find it for you.
     
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    I saw a show on National Geographic (I believe) that was about a scientist that proved we did evolve from the monkey. It was a year ago so I dont remember exactly how he proved it. I think it had something to do with DNA though. I do know that he stated that we did 100%, no doubt, scientifically proved that we evolved from monkeys.
     
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    The evolution point is moot.

    It doesn't explain the creation of life.
     
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    So then there for you have to take agnostic stances on the most ridiculous things I could ever come up with; if you don't you're ignorant. Right?
     
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    Wait, are you talking about God? Agnosticism doesn't believe in the popular image of a God (through its branch of Ignosticism). See, we should first determine what do we consider a God as, is God an Alien? a programmer? or a supreme entity like religions propose? (something I don't personally believe in) Before performing any further thought or research on this matter.

    As someone suggested, Evolution is just a theory and not the definitive truth. It is possible that an Alien species put us on this planet as lab rats and thats how things went from there? There could be other explanations too. Agnosticism is basically, having an OPEN mind towards the concept of a higher being.

    Atheists however, seem to show utter ignorance towards the very concept of anything other than evolution once it comes to the source of life, humans and everything else.

    IT
     
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    Please keep an open mind about the flying spaghetti monster being god then, I know I won't.
     
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    Do you paste that image because there's no clear difference between FSM and Christianity, nor is one more believable than the other?
     
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    x2 is all I can say.
     
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    atheism is not believing in the existence of any god simply because there's no evidence of its existence. I don't see what you find ridiculous about that.
     
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    Thats Atheist Agnosticism or Negative agnosticism. I'm talking about pure Atheism, that disregards anything spiritual or Godly as bullshit.

    IT
     
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    i see god deep within all things and people, and i know all people see the same thing only you might not call it "god"

    atheism is just a word, as is "god", as is "proof"
     
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    Most believers completely exclude the possibility that anything else than their god exists.

    Looks like the same kind of 'ignorance' you attribute to atheists
     
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    excluding the possibility that anything other than god exists is not ignorant. it's sensitive and hard-to-see knowledge. all things are forms of god.
     
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    Firstly, Atheists don't say god definitely doesn't exist. They say they don't believe in one.

    It's perfectly reasonable to disbelieve in something that has absolutely no evidence to support it.

    My claim that there are elves in your fridge playing banjos isn't supported by any evidence and currently you have no evidence to suggest otherwise. But do you believe;
    1: there are elves in your fridge
    2: there isn't
    3: it's possible?
     
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    I guess he holds an agnostic stance towards those banjo playing elves.

    Also I'm still waiting for someone to explain how the FSM differs from Christianity when looking at it from an agnostic stand point. And for that matter, let's add banjo playing elves in to the mix.
     
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